4:20.  I can say the following he's an actual Patriot? He's a real estate classic corporatist, which is a label but it basically means he doesn't like finance people.  He is a patriot.  Even though he doesn't like unions, he'd rather reward labor than government.  So maybe that's a yellow dog, I don't know what that is.  But as a real estate person this is his makeup I'm looking at his temperament to services we we went globalized 70s, 80s it started in the 80s.  So the thing is every corporate just who could became an exporter or went to NAFTA but there's one type of capitalist corporatist that can't, and that's a real estate guy. Real estate people are domestic you can't sell you know you can operate overseas don't get me wrong but you are locked into domestic and so what happened is during the whole financialization of the country, right, leverage, banks, stocks, he did well for himself . . . 

5:35.  LIBOR.  During the library years really to be honest

5:42.  His product is limited.  He can't sell Hershey bars to India.  He can't cut a deal with China for a supply chain of Real Estate, and so he shifted to branding.  Classic, especially New Yorkers, classic real estate people hate finance people that's why he had no problem bankrupting the . . . Anyway, going forward, Trump I, he had an idea, he surrounded himself with the wrong people He surround himself with sycophants because he was insecure I can't believe he's insecure at this level but he was and it short circuited let me see so with that under my belt and I said here we go let's see if he's different his attitude is different now