CATHERINE AUTIN FITTS: And so what Trump is saying is that everything is on the table, because if I'm going to . . . if this model is going to work, we've got to get radical and change it.

She grew up on the streets of West Philadelphia.

Her dad was a doctor/surgeon out of the war. 

17:40.  At the end of World War II, George Keenan at the State Department, a very famous Diplomat, said, "We have 6% of the people and we control 50% of the resources.  And the only way we can keep that going is to drop a lot of bombs, and we are going to have to be very forceful and tough."

So Goldwater came along and he ran for president and he said, "We're going to have to drop a lot of bombs," and he lost, and the American people were like "No we're good Christians. We don't want to do that.

So Jimmy Carter came along and he said, "Okay, we're going to cut back," and he shivered in front of the fireplace, and said, "We have to cut back because we can't control all of the resources," and the American people said, "Oh, no, we like being powerful."

And so the Bushes came along, and they said, "You know something, you all are good Christians.  Here's your check.  Don't ask questions." So that was the political equation: "I will go off and run the global Empire.  I will extract a tithe for the empire.  We will make a lot of money.  I'll get rich, but I'll give you a check in the story of 'I am good.'"  So the political equation in America is we give you a check, and we give you the story of "I am good."  

And the problem that politicians have is the same one that that you have in the EU, the former head, the president of the EU said, "We know what to do.  We just don't know how to get elected after we do it."

19:20.  Trump has got a greater challenge now because that was 2000.  Let's talk about his challenge now.  If the first hundred days are really important for a president, what will he do in the first 100 days? 

19:32.  Here's the question: how much is what he will do, what he wants to do, and how much is what his major donors insist that he do?  And to me, that's the big question, and how much is it that the central bankers will insist that he do, you know, because they're financing the US government.  And if they say no he can't do it, but he's a prisoner of the red button problem, and, you know, will the American people support him in doing what has to be done?  There's not . . . we're talking about a society that doesn't share a common map of what's going on.  For example, if you look at what has happened with military technology and what the Russians are doing both with their new missiles and what they're doing in the North Sea in the Arctic, around the Arctic, it makes absolute sense that if you are Trump and you're responsible for military protection of a whole wide world of global interests, including Canada, it makes absolute sense you would want Greenland.  And yet when you hear him talk about it, you think, is this guy crazy?  But, in fact, if you look at the responsibility of running the global trade routes for the Western world and being responsible for military protection of the US, Canada, and European allies in NATO, . . .

21:00.  So you would be in favor of that?

21:03.  No.  I'm not saying I would be in favor of it.  What I'm saying is you have a model, and the model has to re-engineer, and you have to get the revenues up and the expenses down and take care of your responsibilities and it's a lot more difficult than it looks. And because of the changes in technology all around the world in many different Industries, you've really got to change.  And so what Trump is saying is that everything is on the table, because if I'm going to . . . if this model is going to work, we've got to get radical and change it.

21:35. So what kind of person do you see in Trump?

21:41.  Trump is a real estate developer and a business person, and it's very interesting.  If you live and work in New York as I did for 11 years, everything you do has to be economically successful or relevant, and you approach things from a point of view of cooperating to get a positive economic result.  So in New York things, everything starts, you know, every sentence starts with "Yes."  

So, could we build a bridge to the Moon?

Yes, but it would take a long time and it would be very expensive. 

Whereas in Washington, everything starts out with "No, no," and you've got a toll booth on every inch with people trying to extract the profit to let you do anything.  And one reason is in New York you have to make things work for the equity.  In Washington, if you're just printing government money, you know the equity doesn't have to work.  So Trump is, if you look at the people he's bringing in, he's looking at redoing the economic model and making it much more economically relevant but he approaches it as an entrepreneur which of course is driving all the people who are trained to be good government officials, it's driving them crazy, because they're not entrepreneurs.

23:00.  Why does he do this?  

23:04.  Because he knows that we need to change and he's trying to find a way to invent a productive change but he's so bold and how he does it and he's much too generous with taxpayers' money for himself . . . 

23:26.   What is his motivation, in your opinion?

23:28.  I think he's very frustrated by the way the world is working now and I think he really feels that he can do something about it is my impression.  

So every hundred years, the Central Banking warfare model does a reset, 80 to 120 years.  If you go back in the history, you know, they regularly do a reset.  We knew we had to do a reset.  We knew we were going to globalize, so we had to do a reset, and I thought I had permission from the group of people I knew, you know, high up in the financial system.  I was going to figure out how technology would impact a family, a business, a government, a not-for-profit, and I was going to figure out how we could re-engineer the model to do a reset successfully.  But I had a vision of a reset and I called it "The Building Wealth Reset," where you can create so much significant wealth bottom up . . . that the American people could continue to maintain a reasonable standard of living in the middle of globalization without having an environmental disaster.  We came up with the initial plans and it was really exciting because there was one brief moment when I really thought it was going to work.  And I presented it.  I had a group of the top pension fund leaders who were an advisory board to one of my subsidiaries of Hamilton [Dillion, Read, & Co.] and I presented the plan to them,  and I'll never forget it.  The president of the largest pension fund looked at me and he said, "Oh, my God."  He said, "This is what we tried to do long ago, but they were able to stop us." And I said, you didn't, you didn't have the technology, the learning metabolism can be so increased that you can get people that productive that fast.  We had built Learning Centers in poor neighborhoods and were able to teach people how to become very economically productive very fast.  And, you know, we had the numbers and the documentation to prove it.  And he looked at me, he was stunned, and he said, "It's too late.  They've given up on the country.  They're moving all the money out starting in the fall," and that was when the $21 trillion started to go missing from the US government.

25:39.  $21 trillion?

25:40.  $21 trillion, so in the mid-90s the government was supposed to start publishing their annual audits of their financial statements because under the Constitution you're supposed to report, you know, here's how much money we collected or borrowed, and here's how much we spent, and you're required to do that disclosure with the exception of the black budget piece.  So the government started a process of reporting undocumentable adjustments in between fiscal 1998 and 2015.  They reported $21 trillion of undocumentable adjustments.  At the time we published that number, $21 trillion in 2017, the U.S. debt was up to $21 trillion.  So the US government borrows $21 trillion, the money comes in to Treasury, and then $21 trillion disappears.  

26:49.  The big question is where does it end?  

26:53.  So I thought he meant that we are reallocating the equity in the Pension funds to invest in the Emerging Markets which made sense what I didn't understand though is that's not what he meant he literally they started to move trillions and trillions of dollars out of the federal you know they borrow money and pull the money out and they were literally building a second civilization separately they were literally draining as much money as they could through the federal mechanism because remember that's just a laundry from the Pension funds you sell a treasury bond to the pension funds and you move the money to Treasury, you take it out the back door, and you're just moving the money out of the pension funds into I'm assuming it's a new endowment for a new government.  So we are in the middle of a reset, and that reset is fundamentally changing how the financial system will work.  The central bankers want who basically are the key bureaucracy, and if they want to do what they want to do which is to take over control of fiscal policy and be free of the Constitutional framework, they need changes.  And that's the war that's going on right now, and Trump will have to be right in the middle of that.

28:15.  So this new society in the short term, how's it going to look like?  

28:19.  I used to say that COVID was the operation by which the new Society broke back in and took control.  So what they want is they want digital IDs, they want all digital monetary system, they want the central bankers controlling fiscal policy.  So the central bankers can literally decide what the taxes are and just take it out of your account.

28:40.  A new currency? 

28:42.  It's not a currency, it's a control system.  There are no markets.  It's technocracy.

28:50.  He claims he's going to drain the swamp.

28:51. No that's not going to happen.  

28:53.  At the same time, he's working with people like . . . you can't re-engineer the model and you and your pals make money and drain the swamp at the same time.  That's not going to happen.  So, you know, his number one focus is going to be re-engineering the model of getting it economic, and while he's doing that, unfortunately, he's got a whole lot of major donors who are trying to maximize their profit.  So he's got to manage that.

29:19.  So he's not going to drain the swamp.

29:20.  There are three questions.  Is he going to implement a digital ID?  Because then he's implementing the swamp.  Is he going to allow an all digital monetary system?  Because then he's building the swamp.  Is he going to allow the DOGE and Vivek and Elon to let the central bankers take over control of fiscal policy through corporate contractors?  Then he's implementing the control model, one, two, three.  Now he can do that on the all-digital monetary system.  He can do that with CBDC.  Or, he can let the FED get out of the Constitutional provisions and do Central Bank CBDCs, which will probably be the way you go after you beat everybody up with crypto and they make a lot of money.

30:10.  He doesn't seem like a guy that wants that for his voters, and his voters don't seem to want that.

30:16.  So I think it is Trump's instinct to loathe the idea of total central control.  This is a guy who doesn't . . . he wants to be a sovereign individual, and if you look at some of what he says and does I think he really enjoys the idea of being part of a civilization where people have sovereignty both in their governments and individuals.  The reality though is he's in a system where he doesn't have control, which of course always frustrates him.  There will be tremendous pressures on him to do what the bankers want.

31:00.  Also, some people behind the scenes, like Peter Thiel.  Is it Palantir that decides what the government does, or is it the other way around?

31:10.  Of course, that's the question.  I think the government in theory decides because you have a contract in payments, and they only do what they're authorized under the contract and the payments to do.  At the same time, a lot of the bureaucracy is no longer in a position to tell the corporate contractors what they do.  The corporate contractors have more power.  So there's a whole team of people.  Elon Musk is not a person, it's a team and it's playing a role.  And how much is that Elon Musk as a person is still doing?  

31:55.  Can Trump see through that? 

31:56. Of course.  He's operating in his system. He doesn't control the system, and he's dealing with the system the way it is.

32:16.  And he does want to change it in your opinion?

32:19.  O, I think he does want to change it. I think he does want America to remain the global hegemon.  I mean that's what he said, "Make  America great again." He really wants America to be successful.  His biggest problem is that he has allies who think they control him and major donors, so . . .

32:42.  That's an interesting situation.  Trump got into this position first of all because everybody underestimated him, right?

32:53.  No. He got in this position because the Republican establishment decided, okay, this is the guy who can get us the control grid.  This is the guy who can get the heartland to go along with digital IDs to stop . . .

33:09.  Basically that's what I'm saying, because in your opinion, he's not willing to do that.  He's schooling them.

33:17.  I'm saying it is not his inclination.  It is not his nature.  If you're a successful entrepreneur, you know that total control is bad economics and I think he still feels and and I think he still and I think he still feels he wants to make America great again but I think his first time through he understands that you know if you don't do what they say they kill your family right so for example when I finished the litigation I published a book I mean I wrote a book and I wanted to publish it I put it up online because there's so much documentation behind it it was better to do it digital three times I've tried to publish it the last time I tried to publish it they threatened to kill somebody in my family if I did I backed off you know my family didn't buy into this and I don't have a right to put my family at risk but 

34:05.  So the only person who can change the system is someone, some really big interests.

34:10. No.  Here's how you change the system.  You don't change the system by one guy riding in on a white horse and fixing everything.  You change the system by so many people shifting their time, their money, their intention, their prayers, that crowd moves this way and you can't force them to go this way.  It's too out of control.  In 2016, I was planning on not going back if Clinton had won because it wasn't safe.

34:38.  For you?

34:38.  For me.

34:40.  Why?

34:42.  So during litigation I dealt with a huge amount of physical harassment and surveillance and it was very dangerous.

34:48?  Physical harassment?

34:49.  Yeah, oh yeah. 

34:52.  In the US?  What does that look like?  

35:00.  So your house gets broken into.  You get poisoned.  You get followed.  People run you off the road.  

35:08.  They poison you.

35:08.  I was poisoned 8 times.  I wouldn't settle.  We were publishing and designing and making a tool called, Community Wizard, and Community Wizard made accessible . . . Right now, if you go to the White House, or at that time if you go to the White House, and read the federal budget, it says here's how all the money works in military.  Here's how all the money works in housing.  Here's how . . . but it doesn't say here's how all the federal money works in your neighborhood, because if you can see it in your neighborhood you can get it changed, right.  And so the finance chairman of the campaign would get it, but you don't get the disclosure you need to vote for political representation.  You can get some for your state, but even now some for your county, but you can't get really good data.  So we were making a software tool where you could go in and dial and download all the data and start looking in ways that were very visual and you can start to really grapple and that you could start to change the money and make it much more efficient.  And so one of the things that they did was seize our offices.  They seized the software tool and kept it locked up for years.  It took me years to get it back out, and by the time I got it back out it was all Legacy software and we literally tried several times to start from scratch.  The politics were . . . so, in 2019, some of the harassment kicked up again; it was one of the reasons I finally decided to come do the Dutch residency.  And it was really funny because when it happened, you know because I had had so many amazing miraculous experiences dealing with the poisonings and the physical harassment . . .

36:50.  When they poisoned you they were trying to kill you?

36:53.  No.  Here's my theory because you only know what you experienced you don't know what the facts are so there is one time I think it was intended to kill me I think the others were just intended to scare me and make you tired you know it really when you get toxic because I described to people there is in America a great poisoning going on people are really being poisoned and they're being poisoned in a variety of ways and it's intentional and as if you steal people's retirement funds you got to lower life expectancy it's just math.

37:25.  What is your goal in life? 

37:28.  So I just want to be free.  

37:29.  Do you feel free here?

37:30.  What I said to somebody at the time is I'm just tired of playing Tomb Raider.  I just don't . . . if you look at what I want to do in my life, I want to help people figure out the Building Wealth Reset and I want to help people push it in that direction, because the problem is not what are these guys doing.  The problem is when these guys fail, what's our point?

37:54.  Did that change your approach to what you're doing right now? 

37:57.  Yeah I spend a lot less time worrying about security, right.  So I'm a little rusty in terms of my gun use, but no, no I'm very good with a gun I'm very good with a gun.

38:14.  They're not legal here, right, you know?

38:15.  Well I in Hickory Valley there's a joke, so in Hickory Valley, Tennessee, there's a joke that the men have to sleep with bulletproof vests because the women are so well armed.  

If I was Trump, I would do exactly what he's proposing to do at HHS with Kennedy.  I would get the data out and use the data to put the question back to the American people.  Look at the data, what does the data say, and then based on what the data says, what do you think we ought to do?  So he's trying to get the population engaged in helping him re-engineer the model.  His greatest strength is he's always done that, he's always, while the media is trying to just push the official narrative, he's trying to get people educated about reality enough to support him in the changes.

So step by step.

Yeah, so, and, of course, everybody goes crazy because it's like being in a ballroom and everybody's doing the waltz and some guy walks in and says what do you think, should we do a Tango? and starts to play tango music, and everybody starts crashing and bumping into each other and gets mad, you know, because they're like, "A Tango?  What?  I don't know how to do a Tango. I'm going to lose money.

39:40.  Is this transition going to be paid for?

39:42.  Yes.

39:44.  What's that going to look like?

39:49.  Your guess is as good as mine he's going to be trying to recalibrate the model at the same time you've got all these people who are going to be trying to plunder the government now that they've won.  

40:00.  So it's going to be interesting times.

40:01.  It's going to be wild.  It's going to be wild.  So for example,

40:06.  Are you looking forward to it?  So I don't know if you have ever seen . . . my father was a surgeon, so we talked about this at the dinner table, so forgive me, if you've ever seen a serious infection rise to the surface and turn into a a boil that then pops and drains, it's a really despicable process, but it's very good for your health to get the infection to rise to the surface.  So you know the red button question is now rising to the surface, and I think it's, you know, it's healthier than continuing to try and pretend.

40:40.  If you would have a red button here right now on this table and it will bring you in danger and your family in danger would you still push it?

40:50.  Slavery is a worse danger than the chaos that will ensue you know if we push the red button.  I have news for you, the world is pushing it as we speak, so get ready, put on your big boy pants, and get ready to rock and roll.

41:07.  We walked the road to the future.  Is this the future 4 years from now where we are standing?

41:12.  We're standing and we are facing a period of unprecedented change, and what we say at the Solari Report for 2025 is "Our Year Will Be Endowed by Grace," because when things break down and change at this high speed and radical ways, you know it can be very uncomfortable and very disconcerting, but can also open the window for Grace to come in and operate by faith.

41:39.  The sun is shining in your face right now