Showing posts with label Timothy McVeigh. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Timothy McVeigh. Show all posts

Saturday, February 17, 2024

TIMOTHY MCVEIGH: the execution went ahead on June 11th, 2001. In a highly unusual and secret agreement, no autopsy was performed. One witness said he was still breathing. The prison officials admitted his hearse was a decoy.

On the morning of April 19th, 1995, a decorated Gulf War combat vet blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City using a truck bomb that he didn't build and a Ryder truck that he didn't rent with the help of a passenger who didn't exist.  Having just gotten away with the largest act of terrorism on U.S. soil to date, the Fort Bragg trained, Special Forces sheep drip dropout blended in with the crowd by making his getaway in a car without a license plate and was immediately pulled over. The ATF was the supposed a target of the attack, but luckily all of their agents were out of the office that morning.  Later that day, the President boldly declared "We will find the people who did this.  When we do, justice will be swift, certain, and severe," except for 

"John Doe #2, who according to the FBI, never existed.  In McVeigh's unprecedented three and a half week trial, the prosecution didn't show the CCTV footage of him, and John Doe #2 parking Ryder truck.  Didn't explain why 24 separate witnesses mass hallucinated the existence of John Doe #2, didn't explain why the government was testing truck bombs and the Army was storing Ryder trucks at Camp Gruber right before the bombing, and didn't talk to the FBI informants who blew the whistle on the plot.  But they did collaborate with the CIA and they did convict McVeigh as the lone wolf bomber and Terry Nichols as his bomb constructing accomplice.  Still, a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists, including 300 bombing victims, insist on talking about facts and evidence and refuse to simply believe what they're told a million times by people who tailored suits with well quaffed hair.  They quote the US Army Brigadier General and the FBI crime lab whistleblower and the inventor of the neutron bomb who point out the physical impossibility that the Ryder truck bomb did the damage to the Murrah Building, but that doesn't matter because if there were other bombs in the building that day we would have heard about them:  

"The second explosive was found and defused."  

"I think he said another bomb . . . ."

"The Justice Department is reporting a second explosive device has been found."

"They then found a third device which was also larger than the first."

"And I see another bomb truck going so apparently apparently they're going to try and get out that third bomb."

The FBI claims to have lost the footage showing McVeigh and John Doe #2 parking the truck in front of the Murrah building that morning, but that's understandable because the Bureau has a lot of important evidence to store.

2:15. Terry Nichols insists that the FBI was involved in the plot but thankfully a judge has saved us the trouble of listening to him by preventing lawyers from deposing him.

2:22. Bomb squad truck parked across the street 2 hours before the blast, but that just shows the authorities were prepared for anything.  

2:27. Of the documents obtained by 20/20 show that someone called the Executive Secretariat's Office at the Justice Department in Washington and said "The Murrah Building had been bombed," but this was 24 minutes before the blast." But that shows the public was unusually vigilant that morning.  

2:45. Also, apparently before the bombing, Governor Frank Keating's brother, Martin Keating, had been working on a novel [S.A.S.S.Y.: Based on a True Story that Hasn't Happened.  Yet., Martin Keating, 1996] about a terrorist bombing in Oklahoma City.  Stranger still, one of the characters in the novel was named Thomas McVeigh." 

But that's probably just a coincidence.

In politics, nothing happens by accident.  If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.  -- Franklin D Roosevelt 

McVeigh wrote a letter to his sister where he admitted to being a secret Special Forces Operative and he complained to his friends about the pain in the ass from an Army-implanted microchip.  But that's crazy because if he didn't actually leave the Army in 1991, there would be proof of that.  VIDEO shows McVeigh inside a tank at Camp Grafton in North Dakota in August 1993, two years after his supposed exit from the Army in 1991. 

3:15. McVeigh was not executed on May 16th, 2001 as scheduled because "the FBI had failed to turn over thousands of pages of evidence to McVeigh's defense attorneys."  But the execution went ahead on June 11th, 2001.  In a highly unusual and secret agreement, no autopsy was performed.  One witness said he was still breathing.  The prison officials admitted his hearse was a decoy.  Then the case was officially closed.  

If you question any part of the story you are a paranoid wingnut, birther, truther, 10ther, prepper, or conspiracy loon who'd bring up any of these points ever again.

Learn more on Timothy McVeigh from the Corbett Report

Thursday, August 11, 2022

Fascinating interview with Richard Booth on the Oklahoma City Bombing, April 19, 1995

Fascinating interview with Richard Booth, here and here.

Thank you to Senor Jose
 

Here is No Way, Jose!'s channel.

He starts with ID'ing Idabel, Oklahoma investigative writer, J D Cash, who wrote for the McCurtain Gazette and did some excellent reporting on the Oklahoma City Bombing.  

Oklahoma City and What the Investigation Missed and Why It Still Matters, Roger G. Charles and Andrew Gumbel, 2013.  Reached out to various researchers, and various academics, and started collecting documents.  By 2014 to 2016, I had amassed a huge collection and donated documents and archives to Scott Horton at the Libertarian Institute and he put them all online to make them searchable.  Other researchers, Jesse Trentadue, Wendy Painting

Timothy McVeigh's favorite book was The Turner Diaries, William Luther Pierce, 1978.  Another book he really liked was called The Silent Brotherhood: The Chilling Inside Story of America's Violent, Anti-Government Militia Movement, Kevin Flynn and Gary Gerhardt, 1990.  He wrote the story of a terrorist group called The Order.  And most people when they look at the Oklahoma City Bombing, they completely miss this context.  

14:35. McVeigh was reported to have been seen at Waco.  

Important part of the context here.  You had an FBI hostage team kill women and children.  Horiuchi murdered Vicki Weaver, Randy's wife, and child.  And you had Waco occur that next April, April 19, 1993, where they burned Americans and American children using tanks and flame throwers, an environment where you had the federal government acting in accordance with their true scorched earth policy nature.  Especially on the gun show circuit, you would see a lot of videos about Waco and Ruby Ridge being sold, which served as a motivating factor for McVeigh in Oklahoma City.  He considered the bombing to be revenge for Waco.

McVeigh chose the Murrah Building after he learned it had a daycare in it.  Gives you some insight, I suppose, into his mind. This would be his revenge for the slaughter of the children at Waco. Throughout the country at the time, the militia was a very big and burgeoning movement. Within these militia groups, they were just as outraged as an average, Midwestern white family might view Waco (April 19, 1993: the Mount Carmel Center was incinerated on April 19, 1993or Ruby Ridge, August 21, 1992, totally outrageous.  Date was no coincidence, April 19, Patriots' Day, the holiday celebrating the start of the Revolutionary War.  Also, the same date as Waco.  The main difference was that these were radicals advocating for violence.  

17:30. What about the role of white supremacy? Was it just an inflammatory tag to create a convenient scapegoat and self-hatred among whites, or was McVeigh truly motivated by it?  

When this happened, Timothy McVeigh was being characterized as a militia guy, attending militia meetings, but the truth is that Timothy McVeigh was not a militia guy. He was not a member of any militia.  He had been to a couple of militia events, but at one of them he was kicked out, meaning that they didn't like the kind of talk they heard from him.  

18:55. He was equated as a militia member in the media at the time, who were trying to demonize the militia movement in the country by associating them with McVeigh.