Listen from 14.39  https://t.co/E9rw0qaRS7

— Liz (@LeelongLiz) June 28, 2024

9:40. There were 18 votes on Ukraine, and I voted against every single one of them since 2014 when we started saber rattling.  We do these non-binary resolutions where, you know, "Russia is evil," "We support democracy," and even then we knew that Ukraine was corrupt as hell.

CARLSON: The most corrupt country in Europe by far.

MASSIE:  So there been 16 or 20 votes on Ukraine, and I've been against all of those.  Just in the last 7 months there have been 30 votes on Israel and the Middle East.

CARLSON:  How many votes on the US border during that time?  

10:22. Maybe 4 show votes where we know that they were going nowhere in the Senate.  Look, we have a name 30 post offices.  Last month we voted 15 or 16 times on issues related to Israel and I've been hit because I vote no on all of those.

CARLSON:  Why do you do that, because you hate Israel?

MASSIE:  No, because I'm against sending our money overseas.  I am against starting another proxy war.  I'm against sanctions, because it's going to weaken the dollars and that's why I can't vote for them.

CARLSON:  Tell us what the Free Speech part of it is.

MASSIE:  Recently they brought a bill to Congress, and this is actually a binding bill, not a non-binding resolution like this was going to have the effect of law and people would get prosecuted if they engaged in any anti-semitism on campuses.  And the problem with this bill is they use some International definition of antisemitism on a website somewhere?  My first question is, why don't you just put the definition in the bill?  Why are you pointing to somebody's URL in a piece of legislation?

CARLSON, 11:35. You are the Congress, right?  You write the laws . . . .

MASSIE: Right, we are the Congress.  We should be writing the laws.  Instead, we are referencing a website that's not even hosted in the United States.  And so I went to this website, and it's got a fairly short definition but it's also got examples of things that would be considered anti-semitism.  Some of these are actually passages in the New Testament, if you will, would be banned by this International definition of anti-semitism.  For instance, saying that Jews killed Jesus, which is as you know in the Bible.  He was not welcome among his own people, okay, and so that would be anti-semitism.  And if you engaged in that on campus or just offered that as a thought, say, in a classroom, it would be anti-semitic and you would run afoul of the Department of Education in some federal law.  There were other examples in there that were hard to believe.  For instance, comparing the policies of Israel to the Nazi regime would be anti-semitic.  But the question is what if their policies ever became the same?  Is this a static definition? 

CARLSON:  Or what if we just have different opinions, and now your opinion is a crime? 

MASSIE, 12:52. Right