The first I saw of this was a 90-second segment on Twitter seen below. Jordan really isn't prepared to grill Fauci down with any facts; instead, he puts the burden of fact provision on Fauci who has lied, stolen, murdered facts and specifics with adjectives like "low" and "high" levels ; that, or it's a case that he knows that the emergency orders might be withdrawn shortly, so he is trying to maneuver politically as the guy who lit a fire under Fauci. "Now is not the time to pull back on masking and physical distancing avoiding congregate settings." Congregate settings? Does a family dinner at home constitute a congregate setting? When is the time? When do Americans get their freedom back? This was an atrocious question to the highest-paid government official.
When we get the level of infection in this country low enough that it is not a really high . . .
Note how non-specific he is. This achieves two things. One, Fauci can repeat "low levels" as though it means anything while it points to nothing. It creates a buffer of unaccountability while appearing to answer Jordan's concerns and question and creates a meaningless exchange, proving that Fauci is not accountable to anyone and actually has contempt for the American people. This is what his ambiguity serves. Two, the effect of his ambiguity riles Jordan whose time is limited, and then Fauci uses Jordan's frustration to accuse him of ranting. Captured in this style, Jordan flails in his questioning and can't find alternate lines of questioning or phrases to pin Fauci down.
Jordan interrupts,
What is low enough? Give me a number! We had 15 days to slow the spread that turned into one year of lost liberty, what metrics, what measures has to happen before Americans get their freedoms back?
Fauci replies,
My message, uh, Congressman Jordan, is to get people vaccinated as quickly as we possibly can to get the level of infection in this country low so that it is no longer a threat. That is when. And I believe when that happens, you'll see . . .
Jordan,
What determines "when"?
Fauci, I'm sorry.
What, Fauci suddenly doesn't know what when means yet he's used it in his replies? This is such a low-level conversation that almost makes President Biden appear like a debate champion.
Jordan,
Are we just going to continue this forever . . .
Fauci,
No . . .
Jordan,
When do we get to the point, what measure, what standard, what objective outcome do we have to reach before Americans get their liberties and freedoms back?
Fauci,
You know, you're indicating liberty and freedom. I look at it as a public health measure to prevent people from dying and going to the hospital . . .
What about the 500,000 Americans he cites a little later? Clearly, Fauci, your mitigation measures have not worked. But since you're a liar, you'll never concede the truth. One nurse I know shared with me that he was assigned to work a COVID floor with 23-bed. He explained that they had 3 patients, all of whom were sent home. Why is that Fauci never talks about the overwhelmingly high percentage of folks who recover from COVID? Instead, Fauci's benchmark is to get everybody vaccinated, though he himself takes about 9,000IU of vitamin D.
Jordan,
You don't think Americans' liberties have been threatened the last year? They've been assaulted.
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH): “Are we gonna be here two years from now wearing masks …?”
— The Recount (@therecount) April 15, 2021
Dr. Fauci: “You’re ranting again.”
Rep. Jordan: “Here’s how it works, Dr. Fauci. I get to ask you the questions.” pic.twitter.com/7ufdQ65zG8