5:23. At the same time they are actively working to steal our University secrets are research Secrets they are actively working to undermine our intellectual property regimes how should we be responding to this?
5:33. It should be a whole of government response. It shouldn't just be an FBI fly swatting operation where we're going to work really hard and bust a few people here and there. But it needs to be across the board because the Chinese Communists are doing it across the board. You can't be a citizen of the People's Republic of China to study here or to work here unless you spy for their secret police and their intelligence Services when told to. It's part of their law. If you have immediate family in China, you're not free, you're not free to be here, and to do as you want if you have parents back in China because they have you over the barrel. So we have to presume that every citizen of the People's Republic of China, not every Chinese person, but [every] citizen of the People's Republic of China, is in fact, or, is at least, a potential spy for the Chinese intelligence services.
6:25. So let me ask you this. I'm going to present the hypothetical to you. Let's say that there was an organization that was doing advocacy on "Healthcare in America." And someone had gotten involved in the effort who was a doctor, who had trained at a People's Liberation Army hospital, and this person was advocating for a wholesale changeover of our Healthcare System to one that was more modeled on a Chinese New Age confucianist system. I would think you would be alarmed by that, especially given the credentials of this person having been trained at a People's Liberation Army Hospital.
7:07. Sure. You have to look at anybody being an agent of influence no matter where they're from actually. Who are they? Who is behind it? Is it just a neat idea that they had? Could it be someone who is from China and thought this is such a bad system that I have to warn the American, so I'm going to recommend something to them, or is this something where I can trick the Americans into doing something and nudge them into moving more in the CCP direction.
