Being on The Behavior Panel, you've had to look at countless cases where you analyze whether they're lying or not, or whether they've abducted or killed their own children.  What's the most fascinating or chilling case that you that you remember that you analyzed?

1:06.  Erin Caffey.  People are bad drivers because you don't have to rely on reputation.  And that was the true embodiment of what a psychopath is and she had her parents murdered and her little brother who was a child and she convinced her boyfriend to do all this . . . .

1:25.  The boyfriend was not a psychopath . . . 

1:27.  No, I think he was just a super suggestible, and she knew how to pull all those string 

1:31.  and he was just really into her.  

1:36.  Yeah, and Dr Phil interviewed her you could see those eyes I've never I studied psychopathy for a long time but I never felt it until that video where you could just feel that's not a human being almost like there's no human in there that's a wild creature that has no that views a human being the same as throwing away a paper cup.  

2:06.  So you just see through the behavior of human beings little signs in their behavior their facial expressions in their tone the words they use, whether someone is a psychopath or whether they are lying whether they're concealing information what did you see in her that gave that away I mean what could we look for? 

2:27.  The horrifying truth is that you can't spot a psychopath until after they've done something like that.  So you can have the 50 best behavior profilers in the world, the top 50, and 99% would be inaccurate in predicting who is a psychopath and who's not. They're so hard to spot. I teach a course for women on how to spot narcissists on her first date and that's a lot easier where if you ask them about an ex relationship everything is someone else's phone they're always the victim narcissist will never have friends that are local they'll never have local people that are their friends they're always out of town I've got my friends in another city so they have a hard time maintaining relationships so you'll see a lot of that and that's like the number one trend.  You'll see very similar things with psychopaths.  And psychopaths are attracted to large cities.  In my analysis, Dr. Robert Hare has done most of the research on psychopaths.  In my analysis, I think that cities are not just attracting psychopaths, I think that cities are helping to manufacture them.  In the book I have coming out, The Behavior OPS Manual, 2024, I have a chapter in their called, "Psychopath Factories," where I talk about the elements of the city and how they manufacture psychopathy.