Show notes for Tom's interview with Scott Horton, "Ep. 2521 Iran in the Crosshairs Again?"

02:00, WOODS. I was watching the RNC and Iran is in the cross hairs again.  I thought what?  You'll never guess Scott they're just on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon it's the same thing.  I've been told that JD Vance is a breath of fresh air on foreign policy but then I'm told he said you know if you're going to punch I run you got it you got to punch hard 24 hours a day with propaganda they would not say you know what we probably got to go over there and bomb Iran this is yes so he can send the weapons to Taiwan that's America First for you.  Is there anything in the news over the past, however many months that would justify this abrupt return to John McCain anti-Iran hysteria, where where do you think it's coming from?

03:09, HORTON Well, no true things, but yes things.  The most recent one is supposedly Iranians wanted to kill President Trump.  And it was just a coincidence that this kid in Pennsylvania tried to kill him but that came out last week, people just believed it.  I don't know how it works.  You know it's like you show them a silver coin and they're just hypnotized.  "Oh my God, did you hear?  TV says that there's a report that Iran was going to try to kill Trump," and then people just accept that.  But if you look at all, they go well it's based on one single human source, okay?  Now I got a couple things to say about that.  First of all, that's completely stupid.  There is no way in the world that the Ayatollah put out a hit on Donald Trump because that's how he wants to start a war that he's guaranteed to lose with the United States of America that could end up with Tehran getting nuked off the face of the earth by murdering a presidential candidate.  Only if you believe in some ridiculous cartoon version of the Ayatollah Khomeini, that is not the actual man himself.  You can say all kinds of things, but he's clearly cautious on foreign policy, especially on how he deals with the United States of America.  America.  So the idea that's something like that people ought to be absolutely just Kevlar coated titanium bulletproof on this.  That's obviously a bunch of crap.  And their single source?  Probably comes from the MEK mujahideen, a cult communist, or terrorist cults or the Israelis, but it's definitely not true.  But my second thing to say about that is that as far as the Secret Service goes, I really don't care how not credible a rumor is.  If there's any rumor of someone going trying to kill our president, or our major party presidential candidate, they should have had absolutely had security up to the eyeballs for that.  And I don't care how non-credible the rumor is.  From the Secret Service point of view?  Credible enough.  Should be.  Leave it to the others to decide what the foreign policy response is going to be.  But as far as protecting the president, absolutely, that should have put them to Beyond Red Alert.  I don't care.  You know, let them go to infrared alert to protect somebody running for president of the United States from murderers . . . Based on the flimsiest of pretexts.  But I'm just telling you and your audience, don't believe it for a minute.  It's just crazy to think so.  

The other thing is that they have accumulated a larger quantity of 60% enriched uranium than they had before, which is just a diplomatic hardball.  In all the years of talking about this Tom I've never told you that Iran will never ever, definitely ever, get a bomb.  Because that's not the argument.  The argument is we should not force them to try to get one when so far they have refrained from trying to.  We know that they are not making nuclear weapons.  They do not have a secret parallel nuclear weapons program, and their nuclear electricity program that they do have is completely above board and safeguarded by the IAE.  Now Trump under the influence of Benjamin Netanyahu pulled out of the Obama nuclear deal of 2015, which had expanded inspections and restricted their program to a great degree.  And when Trump broke the deal, the Iranians stopped abiding by it although they did not officially withdraw from the deal it signed with the entire UN Security Council that they made the agreement with.  And so they have ceased abiding by its restrictions, but it actually says in the deal that they can do that.  That if the Americans break the deal, or anybody else breaks the deal, that they can stay within the deal but stop abiding by it's actual restrictions.  So they have gone ahead and begun to stockpile much more 60% enriched uranium 235, but you could take that as a subtle threat that I got bullets in one pocket and a revolver in the other don't make me go ahead and get to the point where I'm making bombs out of this uranium now that's it's a latent nuclear deterrent is what they've got

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LATYPOVA: These people [AmplifyBio, JD Vance's company] are cruel to the point of insanity, and there is no scientific reason to do it this way

"It appears to me that the defense department is working on bioweapons...and J.D. Vance is front and center in one of the central labs that did the study."

"Battelle is a parent company for AmplifyBio, which is J.D. Vance's company...[and] it appears they're getting huge… pic.twitter.com/vb3EdHrhhx

— Sense Receptor (@SenseReceptor) July 25, 2024

"It appears to me that the defense department is working on bioweapons...and J.D. Vance is front and center in one of the central labs that did the study."

"Battelle is a parent company for AmplifyBio, which is J.D. Vance's company...[and] it appears they're getting huge contracts, especially from the defense department, including DARPA..."

Retired pharma R&D executive Sasha Latypova (@sasha_latypova) describes for Basil Valentine on TNT Radio (

@tntradiolive

) how Batelle—a parent company of AmplifyBio, which is partially owned by J.D. Vance's Cincinnati-based venture capital fund, Narya Capital, along with Batelle—is "getting huge contracts" from the Department of Defense (DOD), including, specifically, DARPA, BARDA, and DITRA.

"Battelle is a parent company for AmplifyBio, which is J.D. Vance's company, and they give them grants or funnel these grants from biodefense to work on [what is called 'biodefense,' but is really] bioweapons development," Latypova says.

Latypova notes that AmplifyBio has performed "horrific experimentation on animals," including the injection of a virus-and-vaccine combination containing both Ebola genes and Nipah virus genes. She adds, "They're telling us this is some sort of standard science that they need to do to study vaccines—it's not. And I'm looking more closely into this paper. It appears to me that the defense department is working on bioweapons." 

Partial transcription of clip: 

"I became interested in [Vance's] company, AmplifyBio, which seems to be a service provider to the pharmaceutical industry, which I worked in myself. So this is very familiar to me. And it seems that his company is, was, set up actually the parent company is Battelle Institute, and I started looking into what Battelle is. And it appears to be a front pretending to be some sort of a nonprofit networking between government and private industry. 

"But it appears they're getting huge contracts especially from the defense department, including DARPA, BARDA, DITRA, other agencies of the defense, especially biodefense, which is the part of the Department of Defense in the United States that's very interested in bioweapons development and that is very interested in mRNA. And so this Battelle Corporation, who has huge grants from the Department of Defense—including, I found, $22 million for bioweapons for biological biodefense, they call biodefense development—and other very large grants, like, $350 million for some vehicles. And then they funnel these projects to companies that they directly control or have friends on networks. 

"So for example, Battelle is a parent company for AmplifyBio, which is J.D. Vance's company, and they give them grants or funnel these grants from biodefense to work on, well, the cover story for bioweapons development. As always, we're working on the infectious disease and the vaccines. And so, one of the papers which I found had horrific experimentation on animals, injecting them directly into the brain with what they call vaccine and virus. In the same paper, they call it the chimeric vaccine and the chimeric virus. It's the same exact substance, which contains, backbone of live replicating virus, including Ebola genes and Nipah virus genes.

"And so they test this substance by directly injecting it into the brains of, mice, hamsters, and monkeys. So I, in fact, worked in the industry...and there is no scientific reason to do it this way. In fact, I was so puzzled by it. I searched on, different search engines trying to find the specific route of injection... which is directly into the brain, into the region that's called thalamus in the brain... It was very hard to find any references to this injection route except this particular study.

"So they're telling us this is some sort of standard science that they need to do to study vaccines. It's not. And I'm looking more closely into this paper. It appears to me that the defense department is working on bioweapons. This is a known way of coming up with new toxins and new pathogens. It's these kinds of, poisoning of animals, and then covering it up with infectious disease research. So that's what it appears to me to be, and J.D. Vance is front and center in one of the central labs that did the study." 

Full video:

02:00, VALENTINE. Yeah, he's got links to people that are associated with Palantir, a group like this, organizations that are heavily involved in surveillance.  They are themselves tangentially linked to Crowd Strike and the outage, not saying he had anything to do with that but he's got some wild ideas I mean I've referenced like flooding Gaza.  He and Trump made common cause with the neo fascists in the Israeli regime.  Obviously extraordinary stuff particularly in the light of the ICJ rulings at the end of last week that the entire Israeli presence in the West Bank in Gaza is illegal and should come to an end as soon as possible to me this points to a global Constitutional crisis for want of a better expression because international law is totally disregarded and people like Vance seem to have nothing but contempt for it.

03:07, LATYPOVA. Yeah, so Vance, to me, appears from what I've read and what I've looked at and now I'm doing a more detailed dive into the background than what exactly his companies are working on and the connections, but to me, it looks like he's just another coin-operated creature from the swamp because his hypocrisy is obvious in what he does and what he funds and what he says in his books conservative Catholic values are nowhere to be found when he's making money.  And for these people that seems totally okay where the ends justify the means.  Somehow he's associated with Peter Thiel who owns Palintir, the totalitarian surveillance of everything

JEFF DEIST: Filled With Delusion & Hubris, The American Empire Is Tottering Towards Its End

There are several ways that the empire comes to a close.

1) Voluntarily - BIG cuts in government spending & troops come home. That's not very likely.

2) Bankruptcy without World War, like the Soviet Union.

3) World War, like the British & many others.

We need to avoid #3. https://t.co/FAecCKT7XG

— Chris Rossini (@ChrisRossini) July 25, 2024

Full video is here: 

WTF IS CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM?

Sounds like Haywood. https://t.co/RprXaTz6Fa

— James Lindsay, anti-Communist (@ConceptualJames) July 25, 2024

So it starts with this guy, Charles Haywood.   

We're about to hear some properly crazy shit that I didn't want to have to deal with, and you didn't want to deal with

Who's involved with Christian Nationalism?  Here's the network. 

I want to introduce to you the peculiar character not of a wolf not Steven not William but of Charles Haywood Charles Haywood manufacturer from Indiana and I remember talking with some people at some point in the movement and I don't recall who they were and I don't recall what it was some time ago telling me there was a fairly wealthy conservative who had stumbled his way into producing black hair care products I don't remember the context of that conversation I just thought it was really strange when I finally get Charles Haywood thrown in front of my experience because he decided to attack me on a Monday morning on Twitter bizarrely and then I find out he was on Tucker Carlson see I didn't want to draw any attention to this and was probably not even going to do this but then I realized Tucker put him on his shower Carlson he's definitely fair game he's it's not like I'm going to bring him an attention he wouldn't have gotten otherwise but Tucker I've heard as they as they say Schmidt killed now which is a huge concern very very big concern if true that is a very bad thing if true and I will elaborate on Schmidt and I will elaborate on Schmidt in a minute so we understand what Schmidt peeled means there's a lot going on here that you haven't been aware of in all likelihood very bizarre way like he's telling me that I'm afraid of his power and I'm not and I'm not at all sure what that's talking about and he just kept repeating the calling me fat which I'm sure he thinks triggers me I'm not particularly fat so that's actually kind of funny whatever whatever but then there's a lot of things that are jumping to mind all at once I have to say but one of the things he said to Tucker at the beginning introducing himself to make sense of this shampoo is that he was a shampoo manufacturer who had stumbled one step after another into producing black hair care products guy as I had heard about a couple years ago and put no time or effort or interest into it whatsoever Beyond now Haywood has been involved in whatever the hell that's not in question that's not in in doubt whatsoever but many people got activated but many people got activated and 2020 when they saw the cultural revolution in America kickoff

from James Lindsay,

Can’t anything just be normal and organic? It doesn’t appear so. Unfortunately, in addition to having to deal with a Communist Cultural Revolution in America, we also have to deal with the rising reaction it deliberately provokes. That forces us to have to fight a two-front war if our desire is to preserve liberty and defend and maintain the United States of America. Not everyone, even on the “conservative” side of things, wants to do that, though, and this brings us back to the growing movement branding itself “Christian Nationalism.” What is it? Well, that’s a question with some legs, apparently. To see why, enter eccentric shampoo magnate Charles Haywood, who offers us “the politics of future past,” and who calls himself “Maximum Leader” of something called The Worthy House, as discussed with Tucker Carlson, and who is the originator of the secret society called The Society for American Civic Renewal (don’t miss “The Mark“). In this unhappy episode of the New Discourses Podcast, host James Lindsay reads Haywood’s “Foundationalist” manifesto and starts asking some uncomfortable questions about what’s really going on behind the “Christian Nationalism” movement and its apparent considerable reservoir of financing. Join him to wonder WTF alongside him.

Thank you @dimartinobooth for this note about Powell's "Higher calling" which supersedes the day-to-day politics of the economic data. It's the pain that is needed to fix what's broken.

2 minutes to say volumes.  https://t.co/w2oxvtnntO

— Tom Luongo (Head Sneetch) (@TFL1728) July 25, 2024

24:00  Jay Powell can spout off and he's actually said you know that he that the job data is overstated.  He used that very diplomatic word but until the actual revisions have been made . . . so the third quarter of 2023 revisions that were made that was a swing factor of 800,000 jobs that went missing, the income that was not created by the jobs that did not exist, out of the GDP figures and backing the consumption that did not exist out of the GDP figures, because people weren't if they didn't have jobs they weren't making money.  This all takes quarters and quarters and quarters and quarters and years and years and years and years to manifest in the data.  So Jay Powell can sit on whatever laurels he wants right now about the first reported prints of certain economic data, and God bless him for doing so, because I think he's got a . . . he's answering a higher call, and that is in a nutshell--we do not have enough time to get into it--the non- banking financial system globally is $240 trillion.  The conventional banking system globally is $180 trillion.  One is regulated, one is not.  So if he can in his career what's left of it through May of 2026 at the Federal Reserve, if he can press forward with regulations that will finally begin to regulate the non-banks, then he should say that the economy, the consumer, the job market, that all of it is stronger than what it needs to be.  The only way to smoke out these kingpins of private equity is to say the economy is strong and therefore keep interest rates higher than they otherwise would be.  And we see this in REITs, Real Estate Investment Trusts, throwing up gates and preventing redemptions and buildings trading for 23 cents on the dollar higher for longer than anybody in the non-banking sector then their worst nightmare would have dictated it's the only way to smoke them out and to press through with something called Basel III Endgame, a new set of regulations that will begin to rein in these Cowboys of Finance who live outside of the purview of regulators and make their own rules.