02:54, DAN ASTIN-GREGORY.  Who makes the rules who controls the global Health governance at this moment in time it's the World Health Organization and despite a car crash of a response to the global pandemic the World Health Organization is seeking to accumulate even more powers to direct and coordinate Global health governance with a specific reference to the way that pandemics are prepared and responded to now this is moving forward at a pace without any form of independent inquiry into the World Health Organizations role was in the COVID-19 chapter in the response to COVID-19 yet this new set of international Health Regulations, IHRs, in Pandemic Treaty are steamrolling ahead now we've recently covered this on the Elevate podcast but we're here today with James rogusky who is an author researcher and activist who's written quite literally countless articles on this particular issue