Showing posts with label Jon Jay Singleton. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jon Jay Singleton. Show all posts

Saturday, February 4, 2023

When it comes to answering questions, Houston Methodist Hospital pulls the Iron Curtain

"The religious exemption issue, Houston Methodist has been made into a joke.  I had a religious exemption at Houston Methodist against the flu vaccine.  My religious exemption for the COVID vaccine was denied.  My religion has not changed."  

According to Jon Jay Singleton, religious exemptions are difficult to hold up in court.  

 

Thursday, January 26, 2023

DON'T GET A MEDICAL OR RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION? WHY NOT?

DON'T GET A MEDICAL OR RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION?  WHY NOT? 

why would your adversary offer you a remedy? Because it's not a remedy.   --Jon Jay Singleton 

medical exemption might be easier, but a lot of times the medical exemption can legally be denied--and doctors are told not to give it.  --Singelton

06:45  The EEOC is deliberately participating in the violations you're experiencing at your job and with retailers.  

06:53  They're not a remedy.  

06:55  They're trying to falsify the initial records so that you will not have a case if you go beyond the EEOC, if you go to court, your case will get dismissed. 

Find the video here under "Are Exemptions a Trap?"

Jon recommends not getting a medical or religious exemption.  It's not the best, correct legal procedure.  

00:20  An exemption is an exclusion from a legal duty.  So there has to be a legal duty for you to qualify for a legal exemption.  And there are criteria for that; not everyone is exempt from a certain thing.  Most understand it in terms of taxation.  So, if something is a non-profit, like a church, it's exempt from taxation because it's a church, as long as that money is used in that way.  But there's a legal duty to pay taxes, you see, and the legal exemption is an exclusion from complying with a law.  It's an exception to the law.  

00:50  By its nature, it says that a legal duty exists that you are asking for an exemption from.  So if you ask for an exemption, you're forfeiting the great arguments, the burden of proof, shifting the burden of proof on yourself to say that the legal duty exists. 

1:09  You're acting as if there's a legal duty.  And now you're just asking for permission not to be included in that.  And so those who are trying to push this on people love that.  They want to set that up so they can always just deny the exemption because it's a privilege, not a right, like the right to informed consent is a right.  You don't have to ask for permission for the right to informed consent. 

Right.  So there's something really tricky about it.  Using the idea of exemption means you're asking for a privilege rather than standing on your rights by denying that there's any policy that can even ask you to do this in the first place.  It's kind of like knocking out the foundation is a stronger way to go about it than asking for an exemption.

01:48  Notice how when someone is telling you to submit to accommodations, and I don't know what accommodations we should talk about, the mask-wearing and all that stuff, notice how when someone does that, that organization or individual offers you the opportunity to ask for a medical or religious exemption.  At that moment when someone is doing this to you and he becomes your adversary, why would your adversary offer you a remedy?  Because it's not a remedy.  It's not a real remedy.  

02:18  Are they even revealing the criteria for a religious or medical exemption?  No.   

02:25  We see a bird's eye view of all 50 states.  What's happening is someone gets an exemption and someone else wants it and someone else wants it, and a week later, a month later it's revoked.  It's because it's arbitrary.  Capricious and arbitrary.  When you file for an exemption, a lot of times people just fill out a form.  Who gives you the form?  The very person who is denying your rights, making you think you have an exemption.  So you fill out this form, but nowhere is it disclosed what the criteria are that constitute an exemption, like a medical or religious exemption.  The criteria are never disclosed.  The way you find out what the criteria are is you go look at case law.  And then in order to enforce those, you've got to spend $25,000 minimum if not a $250,000 in legal fees to go through a year's long, several years process to prove that you have a religious exemption, and possibly a medical exemption, the medical exemption might be easier, but a lot of times the medical exemption can legally be denied--and doctors are told not to give it.  The whole thing is a trick.  It's a dead end.  It's a way to create a false record of something that has no legal defense or no legal merit.  If you had to try to enforce something on your employer or business or something.  In the end, it's going to be enforceable, and everyone's going to look at you like you're just a joke and that you don't know what you're doing, and you really don't.  You cannot rely on a religious exemption or a medical exemption.  The criteria for these are never disclosed [by whom? isn't it disclosed by the law?]  And they're never going to tell you what they are.  You can even go look up the case law, and who knows what they're making up in the background, it's ad hoc, it's capricious, it's arbitrary like Melissa said, and it shifts the burden of proof.   

04:26  The Burden of Proof.  90% of cases . . . 

04:30  90% of cases in court don't go to trial.  They get resolved in what's called a Summary Judgment Hearing.  Summary Judgment is a way to get out of trial.  It's overused but it's very effective.  90% has to do with whether or not the plaintiff has the right to sue.  That's all they talk about.  They don't even talk about what you're suing over.  

04:52  They don't even get to the merits of the case.  It's just "Should the case be here, or should it be there? Do you have the right?  Are you on time?"  All the little rules and things . . . 

05:00  So if you do not have the Burden of Proof on a situation, for example, if a person tells you, "You have to wear a mask to come into this building."  Now at that moment, you don't have the burden of proof to prove that you have to wear a mask.  Yes, there has to be proof that you have to wear a mask.  And what is that proof?  The proof is that you are a direct threat, and the only way to prove this is to conduct an individualized assessment to establish that you are a direct threat and that therefore you have to submit to the accommodation of wearing a mask.  How can someone ever conduct an individualized assessment or diagnose you without your consent?  They can never get to that point.  So, the burden of proof stays where it is.  So if the store or employer, whomever, wants to enforce a measure or accommodation like this, it has to go to court.  If you claim an exemption from something, you have to go to court.  Totally different.  

05:57  People have convictions they want to protect, and so they rely on religious or medical exemptions.  What we're saying is that using either of these exemptions is a trap.  The burden of your exemption falls on you and establishing the criteria is very difficult.  Your exemption is not going to be held up by the EEOC.  In fact, the EEOC tries to guide people into religious and medical exemptions and tries to change their charges because that's the path that's been carved out by these "creatures."    

06:45  The EEOC is deliberately participating in the violations you're experiencing at your job and with retailers.  

06:53  They're not a remedy.  

06:55  They're trying to falsify the initial records so that you will not have a case if you go beyond the EEOC, if you go to court, your case will get dismissed.

07:03  And interestingly, what you claim in your EEOC is basically what you're locked into what you're able to claim in court.  We've had some clients, who after their consultation with the EEOC, who changed their claim back to a religious exemption .. . don't do that because that's the case that you have to argue in court.  

07:30  There's no exemption guys.  No medical, no religious exemption, even if you can get one and weasel through it, it's still a legal dead end.  Even if you get it, you're still going to have to submit to the examinations, the temperature testing

Tuesday, January 24, 2023

"the truth is that you're being regarded as having a disability, which is, in other words, a contagious disease, and that's being done without a diagnosis. And so you have a legal remedy if you frame it as an ADA violation and the EEOC can protect you."

This is an employment solutions video.


Her site is called The Zunga.  Nothing is free, nor is it cheap. The fees include an initial intake of $597, and $229/month thereafter until your issue is resolved. 

This might interest you: 

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Stage I Process, getting your situation documented, and your statements of facts organized. 

And the reason we're talking about ADA all the time is that this is the best way, I've found, that we've found a frame that your employer or your retailer, whatever, we're focused on employer right now.  How the heck do you tell your employer that you're not going to submit to these medical interventions.  And the truth is that you're being regarded as having a disability, which is, in other words, a contagious disease, and that's being done without a diagnosis.  And so you have a legal remedy if you frame it as an ADA violation and the EEOC can protect you.  So we're going to explain the process by which we do that, how we set the record up.  

Document the complaint with Human Resources to make the matter confidential.  What we're doing is turning all of these communications and emails with your bosses about these mitigation measures--the mask-wearing, the vaccinations, and the records and singing up for surveillance and all this.  We're turning that into an on-the-job harassment, confidential complaint.  So that means in the future when we document this, which only takes a half hour, once you get the documents set up.  Any other communications that you receive are directed back to HR, and you don't have to argue with your boss and his boss, and all that.  You regard it as . . . look, guys, I've already resolved this with HR.  I'm not submitting all this, and you're not going to take my temperature.  You're opening yourself up to trouble.  

It's a judo move.  Right now, they're going to use a framework where they use HR to fire you.  What we're saying is that we're going to use HR to document the discrimination, the harassment, the coercion, the retaliation, you actually have a conversation with them, you get it all on file, you get it written down, and you use them.  Any time you get harassed or they ask you something that you don't want to comply with, you tell them to talk to HR.  And you're using HR as your shield, and it has to be confidential because it's the law.  Anything that they do outside of that, you continue to document, and that just makes your case stronger.  

And we bring in EEOC right away.  We open a file right away, even if you're applying for the job.  

It's all like reverse engineering for the strongest position in court.  Because for jurisdiction reasons, you have to have filed with EEOC before you can be heard in court.  

5:20. For jurisdiction reasons, you have to have filed an EEOC complaint before you are heard in court.  What happens when you file an EEOC, a Charge of Discrimination it's called, the EEOC, the EEOC will contact the employer, so it's another level of the employer going "Whoa.  They're really serious and they've got a really good case."  And they should be getting information back from their legal team saying, "We've got a problem here" because it's a discrimination complaint.  It's not about I have medical reasons.  It's not about because I have religious relief.  Not to say that those aren't very valid reasons at all, but the strong cause of standing that you could have would be through ADA.  So that's where we reverse engineer the complaint.  

6:06.  What we're really trying to do is end the thing quickly.  If we frame it correctly, which I believe we are, the other side can look at what we're doing conclude that "if thus were to go to court, it would never survive a Motion to Dismiss.  That would mean that it would become a matter of public record that they're discrimination against employees and applicants for employment. Because we would survive their motion to dismiss.  We would get it in the court.  They would not prevail on this. We would win.  That's why we're framing it this way because thet would see from the beginning. So they're not going to let it go there.  We're going to win with the EEOC, now that's not always going to be the case.  At least at first.  Once we do a few of these, it's going to work that way.  We can even come in there as your advocate.  We can speak on your behalf with you on the call.  With your employer or with HR.  Articulate the issue.  Not that it's necessary.  You guys can do this yourself but this is one of the services that we do provide. 

7:12. I would definitely want to use that if I were in this position.