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Joining Peggy Hall are Bill Van Zyverden of Vermont and John Jay Singleton of Florida. Find Peggy's legal documents at the Healthy American's webpage
LIABILITY
17:46 Business owners, because they think it’s
private property, that they can make whatever rules they want. I don’t understand how they believe that it’s
unlimited. Obviously, the rules you
make for operating your store have to comply with the law. Maybe they don’t get proper consultation
advising them of the law.
But really when you’re in that
position, and you want to require someone to undertake a thing, that will
affect his health one way or the other—a medical device, medical intervention—moreover,
I mean that’s why physicians have insurance, because they have to be held
accountable. But imagine someone who
cannot provide informed consent because he’s not a physician. He’s just a
private property owner, a business owner, employee, so for him to recommend a
medical intervention, he has to be willing to accept the liability that may
happen from that. You can’t just tell
somebody to go off and do something and then not be responsible for it,
especially if you’re requiring it, which you really shouldn’t be, if you’re
breaking the law to require it. It’s one
of their big weaknesses; they cannot get insurance for this liability. BTW, let me add just one more thing. On the airlines, here’s a great example, and I
forgot which one it is
If you’re a private property owner
and you tell someone to engage in a medical intervention, you have to the
liability for that. What happens is they
pass out or faint? Does the property
owner have the liability for that?
When you want to require someone to undertake a thing that will affect his health one way or the other, a medical device as medical intervention. Imagine someone who cannot provide informed consent because he’s not a physician, he’s just a private property owner, business owner, an employee, for him to recommend medical intervention, he has to be willing to accept the liability that may happen from that intervention. You can’t just tell somebody to go off and do something and then not be responsible for that. Especially if you’re requiring, you’re breaking the law to require it. They cannot get insurance for this. On the airlines, and this is a great example of this. I think it’s section 205 of title XIV of the CFR, and what it says is the airlines have to provide a certification to the department of transportation, that they have sufficient insurance to carry on their business, and, of course, they have to provide for the safety of the passengers and whomever else, but that pertains to aviation; it doesn’t pertain to medical care. So they can never meet the certification requirements to engage now in the medical testing and everything else they want to do with the medical aspect of it. They have to certify their medical insurance. 19:20.
Some managers and store owners will say in defense of the mask, that if someone in their store catches this disease that the store will be liable. [John is shaking his head.]
20:20 California actually has a law for you to be able to sue someone if they give you a communicable disease. The law came out as a backlash during the AIDS era, and it was designed to create some level of scrutiny for a plaintiff to come forward and say, "Well, my ex-boyfriend gave me AIDS." And the courts and the plaintiff would have to be able to prove that that was the case. And here's the issue: one, you have to know that you have this disease, and how would anyone know they have COVID without any standards for identifying it? Two, you have to willfully seek to transmit it to another person. Didn't realize that people can develop dental and skin problems from wearing a mask. Where does this fit in with an employee who is required to wear a mask? Excellent question.
22:30 The store owner's liability. It's important that we help the store.
The central issue with regard to masks is twofold: one, people should be able to shop for food freely, mask-free and free of harassment from both store owners and their customers. Two, free people have the right to work freely, unemcumbered by masks. Peggy Hall has provided you, me, and everyone else with documents and webpages to press the case on your behalf to secure these rights without reprisal. In this vain, she has posted some legal remedies. For work, your remedy is to contact the OSHA branch in your state and file a workplace safety complaint. She advises you to include the following items in a complaint to OSHA:
1. Masks obstruct your breathing, possibly
bringing it below the OSHA-established levels of oxygen in the atmosphere of
19.5% — thus increasing risk of “IDLH” — Immediate Danger to Life and Health
2. Masks obscure your vision, increasing
the hazard of workplace injuries because of impaired vision.
3. Masks obscure your verbal
communication, increasing the hazard of workplace injuries. Someone might yell,
“Danger” but you could not hear it because of the muffles voice under the mask.
4. Cloth masks increase risk of FIRE
HAZARD, with your face going up in flames.
5. Face Shields increase glare, which can increase risk of vision problems.
6. There is no statutory law or regulation that requires wearing a mask, face covering or face shield, aside from other PPE that might be required in certain industries.
If you are INTIMIDATED or HARASSED by your employer, you can seek legal help with an employment attorney in your own state.
In California, Larry H. Parker law offices will offer a free consultation and if they take your case, you only pay if there is a settlement. 562-427-2044
This is the part that makes me feel helpless, because what's going to happen is that you're going to get released. No employer is going to stop their operations solely on your behalf. None.
Here OSHA answers the question, at least from a legal standpoint, whether surgical masks lower oxygen. Their website states:
No. Medical masks, including surgical masks, are routinely worn by healthcare workers throughout the day as part of their personal protective equipment (PPE) ensembles and do not compromise their oxygen levels or cause carbon dioxide buildup. They are designed to be breathed through and can protect against respiratory droplets, which are typically much larger than tiny carbon dioxide particles. Consequently, most carbon dioxide particles will either go through the mask or escape along the mask's loose-fitting perimeter. Some carbon dioxide might collect between the mask and the wearer's face, but not at unsafe levels.
Like medical masks, cloth face coverings are loose-fitting with no seal and are designed to be breathed through. In addition, workers may easily remove their medical masks or cloth face coverings periodically (and when not in close proximity with others) to eliminate any negligible build-up of carbon dioxide that might occur. Cloth face coverings and medical masks can help prevent the spread of potentially infectious respiratory droplets from the wearer to their co-workers, including when the wearer has COVID-19 and does not know it.
Some people have mistakenly claimed that OSHA standards (e.g., the Respiratory Protection standard, 29 CFR 1910.134; the Permit-Required Confined Space standard 29 CFR 1910.146; and the Air Contaminants standard, 29 CFR 1910.1000) apply to the issue of oxygen or carbon dioxide levels resulting from the use of medical masks or cloth face coverings in work settings with normal ambient air (e.g. healthcare settings, offices, retail settings, construction). These standards do not apply to the wearing of medical masks or cloth face coverings in work settings with normal ambient air). These standards would only apply to work settings where there are known or suspected sources of chemicals (e.g., manufacturing facilities) or workers are required to enter a potentially dangerous location (e.g., a large tank or vessel).
Is this a case closed type of judgment? I don't think that OSHA is going to concede that surgical masks cause brain damage or dental damage or social isolation.
this is interesting that OSHA addresses retaliation.
RETALIATION
Section 11(c) of
the Occupational Safety and Health Act of
1970 (29 USC 660(c)) prohibits employers from retaliating
against workers for exercising a variety of rights guaranteed under the law,
such as filing a safety or health complaint with OSHA, raising a health and
safety concern with their employers, participating in an OSHA inspection, or
reporting a work-related injury or illness. Additionally, OSHA's Whistleblower
Protection Program enforces the provisions of more than 20
industry-specific federal laws protecting employees from retaliation for
raising or reporting concerns about hazards or violations of various airline,
commercial motor carrier, consumer product, environmental, financial reform,
food safety, health insurance reform, motor vehicle safety, nuclear, pipeline,
public transportation agency, railroad, maritime, securities, and tax laws.
If you
believe you have suffered such retaliation, submit a
complaint to OSHA as soon as possible in order to ensure that
you file the complaint within the legal time limits, some of which may be as
short as 30 days from the date you learned of or experienced retaliation. An
employee can file a complaint with OSHA by visiting or
calling his or her local OSHA office; sending a written complaint via fax,
mail, or email to the closest OSHA office; or filing a complaint online. No
particular form is required and complaints may be submitted in any language.
Visit OSHA's Whistleblower Protection Program
website for more information.
"The body excretes waste in three ways: liquid, solid, and gas. Mask-wearing forces us to re-inhale the gaseous waste which includes carbon dioxide and ethanol." --Robert Wenzel
Yep, not only do they inflict maskne [mask-causing acne] and headaches, but masks also
upload carcinogens into your lungs, according to Guy Crittenden, a former
editor of HazMat Management. He posted
this information on Facebook; thanks to David Mueller for sending it my way.
I
happen to know a thing or two about masks and safety. Why? Because
for 25 years I was the editor of an award-winning trade magazine called HazMat
Management that covered such topics as pollution prevention and compliance with
health & safety laws. We routinely published articles on masks, gloves,
respirators, and other forms of personal protective equipment (PPE). Now let me
tell you a few things about that mask you’re wearing. And please note that what
I’m about to share was also stated in the most recent edition of Del Bigtree’s
program The Highwire when two OSHA mask experts spoke to the fact that the
kinds of masks people are wearing were never (never!) designed to be worn for
long periods and doing so is very harmful.
The blue typical mask depicted in the photograph contains Teflon and other chemicals. A Facebook friend reminds us [that, one] Masks are “sterilized” with Ethylene Oxide—a known carcinogen. Many teachers in various school boards have been experiencing significant symptoms as a direct result of the effects of this chemical. [Two], the masks contain (not sprayed with) PTFE which makes up Teflon along with other chemicals.
Wikipedia explains that
PTFE is a fluorocarbon: PTFE is a fluorocarbon solid, as it is a high molecular weight compound consisting wholly of carbon and fluorine . . . used as a non-stick coating for pans.
I found
and have posted the US patent to allow manufacturers to use PTFE as a filter in
commercial masks… “breathing these for extended periods can lead to lung
cancer.”
Don’t agree? Argue with the
experts at OSHA, which is the main US agency, i.e., its Occupational Health
& Safety Agency. These masks are meant to be worn only for short periods,
like say if you’re sanding a table for an hour and don’t want to inhale
sawdust. They don’t do anything whatsoever to stop the spread of any virus, and
the emerging science of virology now understands that viruses aren’t even
passed [from] person to person. I know that sounds incredible, but it’s the case that
the virus is in the air, you breathe it in, there’s no way to prevent that short
of living in an oxygen tent, and if you have a strong immune system you’ll be
fine, and if you have a weak immune system you may have to deal with the
effects of your immune system working to restore balance within your metabolism.
So let’s say you don’t wear the
blue packaged masks, and instead wear a homemade cloth mask—the kind people
wear over and over and hang on their rearview mirror and so on. Those masks are
completely useless against a virus and are also very dangerous. OSHA would
never condone a person wearing a mask of this kind for anything more than the
shortest time. Re-breathing your own viral debris is dangerous to health, and
the oxygen deprivation children suffer wearing such masks all day will
certainly cause brain damage. I’m not making this up. Again, you might say,
well, Guy, you’re not a doctor. True, but I did edit that magazine for 25
years. That’s a long time and many articles on masks and PPE. I’ve attended
numerous OH&S conferences and listened to experts discussing these matters.
You may hear people saying that
surgeons and nurses wear masks like this all day. Um, no. No, they don’t.
They’re trained in the proper use of masks, which is to wear them in the OR,
then dispose of the mask when they leave that room. Are you aware that
operating rooms are actually supplied extra oxygen, to compensate for the
reduction in oxygen flow from mask-wearing? To my mind, it’s criminal (not
hyperbole) to force children to wear masks all day. Setting aside the very real
psychological effects, we’re going to have a generation of brain-damaged
children. Ever heard the expression, “Not enough oxygen at birth?” That’s a
joke at the expense of a mentally challenged person, but that’s literally what
we’re doing. And we’re told it’s to “keep us safe”! We’re told this by doctors
who actually don’t know about PPE and laypeople who have no clue.
So, you can choose to believe
me or not, but I was the editor for a quarter-century of a magazine that had a
strong occupational health and safety mandate, and I can tell you that the mask-wearing currently mandated by governments and private businesses offers no
health benefit whatsoever, in no way protects you or anyone else from any
virus, and actually, does you damage beyond wearing it for a few minutes. Got
that? Good. Now please share this message and get the conversation going with
parents, who must end this masking of children immediately. This is a very
serious matter. And related to that, let me just state this doesn’t end for me
when the lockdown ends or the masking ends. No, this ends for me when every
politician and bureaucrat who inflicted this travesty, this crime against
humanity, on the population of Canada (and other affected countries) is in the
dock and faces their misdeeds in a court of law.
And as for those of you who
have put masks on young children, I will have a long memory on that score. A
very long memory.
END NOTE: The CDC and WHO have
acknowledged that asymptomatic people do not spread the virus, so the case for
masks for such people is moot in the first place.
Robert Wenzel at TargetLiberty explains
I have been consistently pointing out that there is no significant study regarding what long-term mask-wearing does to the brain or other parts of the body. It is typical of these blunt instrument orders from government that they don't consider all the ramifications of the orders they issue.
My attempts to get answers from the San Francisco mayor, the president of Macy's and OSHA regarding the health ramifications of mask-wearing for prolonged periods have gone unanswered.
This is what I do know. The body excretes waste in three ways liquid, solid, and gas. Mask-wearing forces us to re-inhale the gaseous waste which includes carbon dioxide and ethanol.
You have to be a buffoon to claim that there is no harm from re-inhaling such waste when there are no scientific studies to back up the assertion and there are hints that it is a serious problem for long-term mask wearers---aside from the chemical in the masks themselves that are inhaled as identified by Crittenden.
Sorry, wrong.
— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) October 16, 2020
The state-by-state evidence from the United States (which as a single country is going to have far fewer confounders) shows that states with short or no lockdowns performed far better than those with harsh rules IRRESPECTIVE OF THE COURSE OF THE VIRUS... https://t.co/UbVTSRI7Jp