DEBBIE LERMAN: So the lockdown-until-vaccine response, which is a military response, it is not a public health response

Say it loud, say it proud:

"WHATEVER IT WAS, THE VIRUS DIDN'T KILL THE WORLD—**THE RESPONSE** KILLED THE WORLD."

"The lockdown-until-vaccine response, A MILITARY RESPONSE...killed millions...we have to look for the origins of the response...[not] the origins of the virus."… pic.twitter.com/FR4eVv47h1

— Sense Receptor (@SenseReceptor) June 6, 2025

The Deep State Goes Viral: Pandemic Planning and the COVID Coup, Debbie Lerman, May 2025.

Say it loud, say it proud: "WHATEVER IT WAS, THE VIRUS DIDN'T KILL THE WORLD—**THE RESPONSE** KILLED THE WORLD." "The lockdown-until-vaccine response, A MILITARY RESPONSE...killed millions...we have to look for the origins of the response...[not] the origins of the virus." This clip of Debbie Lerman, a 2023 Brownstone (@brownstoneinst) Fellow and retired science writer, is taken from a UKColumn (

@ukcolumn

) interview with Jerm Warfare (

@RealJermWarfare

) posted to Odysee on June 5, 2025. PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT "The whole point of my book and my research and everything, the message that I'm trying to get across is it doesn't matter what the virus was. It could have been real, it could have been fake. It could have been from a lab. It could have been from a raccoon dog. Whatever it was, the virus didn't kill the world. The response killed the world. "So the lockdown until vaccine response, which is a military response, it is not a public health response, killed the world. It killed millions of people who were injured and killed from the vaccines. It also killed people in hospitals. It killed people who were isolated. You know what it did? It deprived children of their ability to develop normally and of socializing, and it increased every kind of disease and depression that you could possibly imagine. "But that means what? That means if we say the virus didn't kill the world, it doesn't matter whether there was or wasn't a virus, because the response would have been the same. Okay? There would have been the same. So we have to look for the origins of the response. We can't look for the origins of the virus.

"We can. We can argue all day long. Do viruses exist? Do they not exist? We can argue. Did it come from a lab or did it not? Was it Fauci's lab? Was it Baric's lab? Was it China? Doesn't matter."  

SASHA LATYPOVA: COVID is part of an ongoing global military campaign on behalf of the controllers of the "Resilience" agenda, aka Agenda 2030

Pepijn van Houwelingen who previously asked questions about the mystery surrounding the NATO truthfulness goals speaks of a “huge black hole in our democracy ”. He emphasizes that NATO's resilience goals are not limited to military matters, but include many policy areas such as climate and public health. In principle, any ministry can have to deal with it. With a cabinet that carries out a secret agenda, the House of Representatives is insufficiently able to carry out its controlling task, says Van Houwelingen. He promises to set “a battery of follow-up questions ”. Other parties in the House of Representatives have so far been silent on the subject. FVD has twice requested a debate, but this was not supported by other parties in the Chamber.          --Sasha Latypova

Debbie Lerman and I told you so! Covid is part of an ongoing global military campaign on behalf of the controllers of the "Resilience" agenda, aka Agenda 2030. https://t.co/SNRz7RRHlL
We must demand that the current US administration admits to being part of this secret…

— sashalatypova.substack.com "Due Diligence and Art" (@sasha_latypova) June 7, 2025

ADMF, Advanced Development and Manufacturing Facility.  

The vaccines, the lockdowns, the 6' distancing, masks, et al are all under the category of "countermeasures," a military term to describe tools to defend against a threat. 

From Sasha Latypova,

When Col Matt Hepburn told Astra Zeneca’s and other pharma executives that the DOD will be “predicting” the pandemic viruses and the pharma companies will be showered with money from the DOD to make vaccines in 60 days, he was enticing them into a cartel to commit mass murder and injury by poisoning. Which they have done in the past 3-4 years. Now, we are at a different phase of this game, and AZ is out. The remaining contestants in this fake competition are going to be chasing these “quick, change the variant!” games, while the US military cartel will be making cash by front-running these changes. Where do you think Peter Marks gets the “current pandemic variants” from? A few rounds of this game, and the only one standing will be Moderna as a front for US Gov/DOD/CIA pumping toxic mRNA sludge from Resilience via “resilience sites” onto the world.

SASHA LATYPOVA: Calley Means . . . was the one who convinced RFK, Jr to join Trump's campaign and they're managing this campaign, such that RFK, Jr. cannot say a word about vaccines or pharma

[they're] going to overly regulate the food supply and . . . make huge changes [to it].  So that small farms can't survive, so that everything has to be shut down that they will be able to announce pandemics of new viruses and chicken pox that kill all the chickens, so that again we don't have eggs in the stores; prices go up, and yes, they're going to engineer famine next time because pandemics don't work so much for them anymore.  --Sasha Latypova

"Calley and Casey Means come from a family [that's as] Deep State as Deep State gets... their father is a Knight of Malta..."

"We call the [MAHA] strategy ABV—Anything But Vaccines."

Retired pharma R&D executive Sasha Latypova (@sasha_latypova) describes for Victor-Hugo Vaca… https://t.co/Rx5uA1yykl pic.twitter.com/IMr55dqgE5

— Sense Receptor (@SenseReceptor) May 7, 2025

00:00.  It's all distraction into, "Oh, well we need to clean up the food.  We live in toxic food.  We live in toxic sludge.  Everything is toxic around us.  We just need to focus on everything else."  We call this strategy, ABV, anything but vaccines.  So they will tell you anything causes cancer.  They will put Proposition 65 notices on just about anything, including Starbucks cups, and say "it's known to cause cancer."  They already banned smoking, so they can't pin it on smoking anymore.  So they go after food.  And so this whole MAHA policy was 

We need clean food.  We need new nutritional guidelines.  We need to ban all kinds of toxic things in agriculture, meaning pesticides, meaning you're going to reduce yields, meaning you're going to increase food prices and a bunch of people are going to starve.  

And we also need to, very recently, they finally banned Red [Dye] 3, which turns out, actually, I did, I did a crowd source.  I wrote an article and I asked my contributors, a lot of them are scientists also, to look up the food toxicology papers.  There is no proof it causes cancer.  None.  If, maybe if you eat 400 lb of it, maybe, but it does not cause cancer.  There's no proof of it.  It's all political BS and it's not even used anymore.  That's why the FDA was so happy to ban it.  So all of this is BS and distraction into "toxic everything," "all Wi-Fi and 5G and nanobots and chemtrails and let's, you know, ban everything in agriculture so we can't grow anything anymore.  But nothing about vaccines in that MAHA policy at all.  

1:51.  And it turns out, who came up with that policy?  Oh, well, Calley Means.  A new arrival in the health freedom movement are these Means twins.  Have you seen them on the Tucker Carlson Show everywhere?  So this is another surprise after this MAHA policy was like, who are these people?  We have them in Senator Johnson's hearings with brother and sister, Calley and Casey Means.  And we see both of them talking in Senator Johnson's hearings.  We see that they immediately go on Tucker Carlson's Show, Casey Means, and they talk for 2 hours about nonsense, like, "Oh, we need to eat healthy.  We've discovered the metabolic condition that can be, you know, cured by healthy eating and exercise."  Oh, my God, this is just like earth-shattering news, right?  We never knew about such stuff, right.  And Tucker Carlson is all like, "Oh, you are such a wonderful, you know, you're a doctor from Stanford with 10 years of training in Stanford.  But you quit oh but you quit on your 30th birthday."  Turns out all of it is a lie.

So my friend Debbie Lerman actually a journalist did actual journalism, digging deep into their backgrounds, and she found that these two clowns, Calley and Casey Means, . . .  first of all, she's not a doctor from Stanford.  She quit some surgical residency in Oregon State but somehow Tucker Carlson repeats numerous times that she's a doctor from Stanford and "she's so amazing."  RFK, Jr. and somehow during his acceptance speech at the Arizona rally when he went to join Trump's campaign, promotes Calley Means as if he's such a you know and everybody is like who but he says oh he's been working for me he is such a an expert and soil regeneration nobody knows.  These two Calley and Casey Means, come from a family of deep state, as deep state as it gets, including their father who is a Knight of Malta, a thousand-year-old organization.  They're plants from the Deep State immediately parachuted.  They're also connected to Pharma lobbying, Mercury LLC.  You know they've been lobbying for Pharma for their entire professional lives, and they've been parachuted immediately into Trump's campaign.  Also, Calley Means claimed that he was the one who convinced RFK, Jr to join Trump's campaign and they're managing this campaign, such that RFK, Jr. cannot say a word about vaccines or pharma.  All of it is going to be, we're going to overly regulate the food supply and we're going to make huge changes there.  So that small farms can't survive, so that everything has to be shut down that they will be able to announce pandemics of new viruses and chicken pox that kill all the chickens, so that again we don't have eggs in the stores, prices go up, and yes, they're going to engineer famine next time because pandemics don't work so much for them anymore.  Too many people called BS.  Too many people woke up from this.  Now they're going to be doing this.  They're going to go after the food supply and again eliminate small businesses, put everything into industrial agriculture so that they can easily control, and that's their next step plans.  

🚨Hyper-Critical Point MAHA/MAGA STILL CANNOT SEEM TO GRASP

"It doesn't matter where COVID came from, and it doesn't matter what it is...What [destroyed] the world was the response...what was important for the people who planned and executed COVID was...the response." https://t.co/pPt2T5pkHG pic.twitter.com/MKL4DJCKTE

— Sense Receptor (@SenseReceptor) May 1, 2025

I'm going to say something that might be shocking or surprising: it doesn't matter where COVID-19 came from, and it doesn't matter what it is, and the reason is this: COVID-19, the virus, whatever it was, SARS-CoV-2, did not destroy the world.  It barely killed any . . . , I mean it killed some people but not a lot, certainly not as many as they said.  What killed the world was the response so the lockdown until vaccines response which as we as Gloria [Guillo] said in the introduction, it killed the middle class, it killed small businesses.  It transferred trillions of dollars in wealth to the upper most 0.001 stratum of society.  It destroyed children's educations it through like 100 million kids in developing countries into abject poverty it increased child labor child marriage like every bad outcome that you could possibly imagine for the population of the world while increasing the power and the wealth and the control of the global corporate and technocratic elite.  So the purpose of the dossier is actually to shift the focus from asking and obsessing about "Where the virus come from?" "Was it a virus?" "Are there viruses?" "Was there a virus?" We can talk about that a lot, and I'm willing to talk about that, but no matter what the answer to that question is it doesn't matter in terms of what happened with COVID because what was important for the people who plan and executed COVID was not the virus, it was the response.  They needed the lockdowns and they needed a vaccines for their response. 

Gloria Guillo, MPA, Vice-Chair, WBAI

Jeremy Kuzmarov.

DEBBIE LERMAN: That's what a lockdown until . . . and it's not lockdown until vaccine; it's lockdown until countermeasures.

So the civilian framework of Public Health disappeared.  It just got swallowed up by the biodefense framework, and now they're applying the biodefense framework to the entire world, which is utterly and completely counter to medicine and science in public health.  --Debbie Lerman

WAKE UP, MAHA

"Fauci wasn't in charge...He was the public relations face of the policy...The gov't entity that was in charge of the COVID policy was the National Security Council...and now they're applying the biodefense framework to the entire world."  https://t.co/SstHpcslnM

— Sense Receptor (@SenseReceptor) April 18, 2025

The biodefense global public partnership includes all of the public health agencies and stuff on a national level, but they're not the ones who are in charge.  So they're the ones who are just enacting the policy, and that's where everybody has to be really, really clear.  Fauci was not in charge.  Please get that out of your mind.  Yes, we can prosecute him.  Yes, we can blame him for a lot of things.  He didn't make the policy.  He didn't come up with the policy, and he didn't enforce the policy.  He was the public relations face of the policy.  Sure, he's a terrible person.  I would be happy if he were on trial, but I don't think that's where we should be focusing all of our attention.

00:45.  And that's why they brought in Birx.

00:48.  Yes, so Debra Birx is representative of the National Security State.  So what happens . . . so that's why I'm saying, so the second tier is the public health agencies, but what I discovered through my research is that the government entity that was in charge of the COVID policy was the National Security Council.  The National Security Council now again I have to emphasize that before COVID, I didn't want to know this.  I didn't ever want to know about National Security, FBI, CIA, . . . yeah, it's not my thing and so I just went where my research took me and unfortunately that's where it took me, and so I had to go there.  And so the National Security Council is defined as "the leaders of the military and intelligence arms of government that are advising the president on National Security."  That's the definition.  Now, that was the definition before COVID.  They changed it.  So you have to look up the Way Back Machine to find that definition.  Now the way they define it is, yes, it's the intelligence and military, but, of course, it's also pandemics, disasters, anything that requires national coordination now is going to be coordinated through the National Security Council.  That's scary because they have expanded the definition of what the National Security Council is supposed to do and in doing that they've incorporated Public Health into what they call Biosecurity, a biosecurity framework.  A biosecurity framework, the one that they came up with, is based on a biodefense response to outbreaks, which is lockdown until vaccine.  And what that was supposed to be for, it was supposed to be for when there was an Anthrax attack let's say on a subway system in a big city, you could lockdown that city, make sure that it didn't get, it didn't spread further getting brush treatment to the people in the affected area.  It would be a very limited geographic and temporal event.  That's what a lockdown until . . . and it's not lockdown until vaccine; it's lockdown until countermeasures.  So they would rush the counter measures.  They had EUA, which is Emergency Use Authorization, which in that situation was important because you rush the treatment to the people in that area even if you don't know that it's definitely going to to be effective; it's such a big emergency biowarfare, bio terrorism, you got to rush it to the people.  There might be some collateral damage.  We're in a military situation here, right, so in a military situation collateral damage is a whole different consideration than in a civilian framework of Public Health.  So the civilian framework of Public Health disappeared.  It just got swallowed up by the biodefense framework, and now they're applying the biodefense framework to the entire world, which is utterly and completely counter to medicine and science in public health

The Hidden Hand Behind the Covid Response: NSC & the Military

The COVID-19 Dossier" . . . is a large compilation of data showing that the US Military as well as intelligence services were in charge of the response to COVID-19, and not the National Health agencies.  Also, it shows that the US military collaborated with other countries' military and secret services, also involving NATO in the collaboration. --Cornelia M. Rose

"also involving NATO in the collaboration"?  Unbelievable. 

NEW INTERVIEW:
'The Hidden Hand Behind the Covid Response: NSC & the Military | Debbie Lerman & Sasha Latypova'  @sasha_latypova

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— Flashlights Podcast (@CorneliaMrose) March 24, 2025

When there is a severe flu strain, the flu comes around every year, and once in a while it's a really bad one, and a lot of people die.  So when that happens in the United States, is the National Security Council in charge of the response? 

No.  Historically at least not but my theory going forward they're going to continue to weaponize these events these natural seasonal illnesses or natural an animals and as we've seen they're going to continue weaponizing so probably now the National Security Council is probably in charge of everything.  But before, no.

00:51.  So who is usually in charge? 

00:52.  It's a public health, seasonal influenza is a public health matter, but from the point of view of obtaining statistics, accurate statistics, and figuring out when there is a severe outbreak, providing some advisory tips, like "wash your hands," "stay home if you're sick," stuff like that, this is normal Public Health Management.

01:21.  And that would be CDC.  HHS is the parent agency above the CDC.

01:29.  But measures like lockdowns closure of businesses that has never been used as public health, and, in fact, was always recognized for about a 100 years now recognizes as counterproductive and not advised as a public health measure.

01:51.  So the two of you published what you called "The COVID-19 Dossier," a record of military and intelligence coordination of the global COVID-19 event.  This is a large compilation of data showing that the US Military as well as intelligence services were in charge of the response to COVID-19, and not the National Health agencies.  Also, it shows that the US military collaborated with other countries' military and secret services, also involving NATO in the collaboration. 

02:21.  We don't show that they collaborated. We show that in every country, the military and the intelligence agencies were in charge.  So there is a parallel structure to the responses, which suggests collaboration.  So we say in the dossier, here's what happened in each country.  I don't want to overstate the facts that we have.  The facts are the facts. Every country had a military intelligence response to COVID-19, same dates, same types of governing structures, same laws that were invoked simultaneously, all over the world.  So that suggests a high level of coordination, and we surmise and suggest that these International defense treaties were utilized in order to coordinate a response.

03:25.  This covid dossier I think is really the fruit of several years of your research I mean it's digging extensive research that both of you did and we'll go into exactly what you found and what it means but tell me first of all what was your starting point to This research so where did you begin and why and when?

03:45.  The starting point for me was some time late 2020. I became suspicious of government actions nonsensical actions during the so-called COVID-19 pandemic let's say April 2020 when they started suppressing I started looking into it so I became concerned and started looking into it but I didn't start digging into actual data until later 2020 and then 2021 when these mRNA shots rolled out from then on I started investigating there's data and found that these shots were not compliant with good manufacturing practices which was shocking to me because it's a big crime

MANOOKIAN: So it's bigger than just overturning Chevron. It's all the kind of goodwill that was accorded to them during those years

Conversation with Leslie Manookian, Health Freedom Defense Fund

Sasha Latypova
Mar 17, 2025  https://t.co/bm3UJhSiQP  @sasha_latypova pic.twitter.com/haz4Uo2iYR

— DianeShears (@DianeShears) March 17, 2025

09:18.  Any mandates are completely out of the scope of the EUA and the PREP Act.

09:22.  We actually sued over this.  The school district in Los Angeles mandated in March of 2021 the shots for all their employees, and we sued, and we said, "EUA, you can't do this," and they rescinded the mandate the next day. 

But then something really weird happened. I'll just say this as an aside very quickly. The case had to work its way through the court, and so it did, and in July, one week before our case went to the district court in Los Angeles, the federal court, the Office of Legal Counsel is what it's called at DOJ, issued an opinion.  They issue opinions on things, and they stated that the EUA language, which said that "recipients of the EUA product must be apprised of the risks and benefits, the risks of not using it, that those risks can include 'losing their jobs.'"  Talk about contortionism, right?  Who all was in on this, and why were they doing it?  This was a Department of Justice, the top of the Department of Justice issued this letter totally because of our lawsuit saying, "No, no, no, oh, you can just tell them that they're losing their jobs, because this would be one of the risks."

10:57. LERMAN. And if you look at the law, there's no way that the law intended that because the law did not talk about . . . the law was talking about a CBR an attack and the risks associated with that and with the countermeasures.  It wasn't risks associated with government activity or government mandates.  And now, I mean now that Chevron is gone we weren't able to question government agencies; before we weren't able to question them at all. I don't know now if we can question them on this stuff.

11:25. MANOOKIAN.  Certainly, much more.  First of all, there's something else called context, or the "Context Doctrine," basically whenever there is a confusion or question about something, then the courts are bound to look at the context and the other words surrounding those words to understand what the intent was of Congress.  And it's very clear, it's all about the health risks of either taking or refusing the product. the words are literally so twisted our attorneys were actually couldn't even believe that thing this office of legal counsel issued this opinion because it was so ridiculous so utterly ridiculous but it was intended to give the court cover and all of the employers across the country to give them cover with respect to Chevron Deference.  I don't want to talk too much, but with respect to Chevron, I will say Chevron, what happened with Chevron was that for 40 years the courts were required to defer to a government agency's interpretations of statutes whenever there was a dispute over any ambiguity in the statute.  So Chevron overturned that specific piece, but what's most important is that implied in the Chevron Doctrine that had been in place for all those years was this goodwill.  You know, "Our federal agencies wouldn't lie to us." "They wouldn't deceive us." "They wouldn't twist." They were all accorded goodwill from the courts.  And I think that has been undone by overturning Chevron, and by the incredible bad will that we've witnessed.  So it's bigger than just overturning Chevron.  It's all the kind of goodwill that was accorded to them during those years, and I think that's pretty much gone.  

DEBBIE LERMAN: the virus did not devastate the world. The response devastated the world. Therefore, we should be looking at the origins of the response, not the origins of the virus

🔥🔥"The virus did not devastate the world—the response devastated the world. Therefore, we should be looking at the origins of the response, not the origins of the virus. So any investigation that focuses on the origins of the virus is missing the entire picture."🔥🔥

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— Sense Receptor (@SenseReceptor) February 19, 2025

"The virus did not devastate the world—the response devastated the world. Therefore, we should be looking at the origins of the response, not the origins of the virus. So any investigation that focuses on the origins of the virus is missing the entire picture." Retired pharma R&D executive Sasha Latypova (@sasha_latypova) and Debbie Lerman, a 2023 Brownstone (@brownstoneinst) Fellow and retired science writer, describe for Alex Newman (@ALEXNEWMAN_JOU) of The New American (@NewAmericanMag) how everyone looking for the core truth in matters regarding COVID must be focused on the origins of the "response" to the disease, not the origins of the disease itself. Lerman notes that it was the *response* that "devastated the world," not the "virus." If indeed there even was a virus. (And, of course, much evidence points to there being no SARS-2 virus.) "You need to realize the virus did not devastate the world. The response devastated the world," Lerman says. "Therefore, we should be looking at the origins of the response, not the origins of the virus. So any investigation that focuses on the origins of the virus is missing the entire picture. The origins of response is what we need to address, not the origins of the virus." Latypova goes on to describe how the idea of declaring a "pandemic" before a novel disease has run its course is fraudulent on its face: "In the past, pandemics did not exist... a pandemic is a simultaneous mass illness and death exceeding all the previous mass illnesses and deaths in human history occurring simultaneously all over the world. That does not exist, never happened. Okay? Now epidemics have been historically declared. An epidemic in a public health sense, this is non-nefarious, benign [in a] public health sense, [but still an] epidemic can only be declared retrospectively. After you've collected the data about this current season, mortality, and morbidity, and you compare it to the previous years and it exceeded certain thresholds, then you can say you had an epidemic. So [this COVID pandemic declaration is] nonsense. It's absurdity to take a code, some sort of a random code, genetic code that was uploaded on January 9th to GenBank from China and then say, 'Oh my God, this is a pandemic virus.'" Latypova adds: "I've published on this. I've read several of Ralph Baric's long reports. He co-authored a gigantic report—it's like a book on bioweapons, published by the National Academies of Science in the US. [And] there's numerous very prestigious authors of this book [as well]. They all unanimously say, 'We do not have scientific knowledge that today can predict from the genetic code how dangerous [a] virus is going to be or even if it's going to infect anyone. So how is it possible that they have a sequence that somebody uploaded? "By the way, those [SARS-2] sequences, they're not accurate. They're always consensus sequences because PCR is error-prone. So you have to do numerous runs then average it out and then say, well, sort of like this sequence. Right? But it represents nothing. It's an averaged code." Lerman adds:

"Sasha just gave you why the scientific explanation for why [COVID] could not have been innocent. The public health and national security reason is even if they thought [SARS-2] was a bioweapon that was gonna kill a lot of people, why didn't they tell us? Number one. Number two, if they knew it [was a public health emergency] on February 5th 2020, why did they only start implementing measures on March 13th or 18th or 15th depending on the country or the state? So they could not possibly have been innocent... Even if they all believed that this was a terrible bioweapon that China created at the Wuhan lab and Fauci funded it... they still didn't tell us for a month and a half." 

DEBBIE LERMAN: What was the origin, not of the virus, what was the origin of the response, because the origin of the response is what destroyed the world.

06:26  and I'm going to jump in Sasha, because I think we might differ here.  I don't know what it was and I think the point that we're making in the dossier is that it doesn't matter . . . what the trigger was . . . so the fact that everybody's focused on whether it was from a Pangolin or a raccoon dog or the Wuhan lab, it's not beside the point, it's an interesting question, but it is not what destroyed the world.  What destroyed the world was the lockdowns and the vaccine mandates.  That's what destroyed the world, and so what we're asking people to do is re-focus.  What was the origin, not of the virus, what was the origin of the response, because the origin of the response is what destroyed the world. 

11:00.  Sasha and I agree on all of the global control issues, and I think the important thing to realize here is that, for me, it's more structural and systemic that they were trying to use COVID-19 to kill people because I think if they were trying to use COVID-19 to kill people, it didn't do that great of job, or the vaccines, or the so-called whatever, the MRNA technology was.  I don't think it did a good enough job for that to be the justification.  It might have been.  I'm open to that interpretation.  IMO, the global structures that have been put in place and that have been growing and growing and growing especially since 9/11 and since the fall of communism, which are these supranational corporate public-private Partnerships that really pretty much controlling everything right now in the world because National governments don't have too much power anymore.  And the one that is in charge of military bio defense, so responding to biological whatever, is huge.  It's an enormous International Global conglomerate that includes pharmaceutical companies, Global pharmaceutical companies and all their subsidiaries.  So just think about how many tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, of people already are just employed in that.  Then we have all the academic institutions and the journals and the governmental agencies that are in charge of those things, and it becomes a "too big to fail" entity.  That's how I think of it, it's a "too big to fail" entity, and so if there is no outbreak and there is no biowarfare bio-terrorism, they have to . . .  something has to happen to justify their existence.

12:46.  So the evidence of this consortium were included.  

Crashing the food supply? Got eggs?

Using fraudulent PCR tests to crash the food supply.  This is why the egg section in your grocery store is empty.  Got chickens?  How about a chicken coup?  You need the protein, the choline, the sulfur, the vitamin A, E, and others from eggs.  They are your daily multivitamins.   

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— Sumner (@Sumner1928529) February 8, 2025

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— Dusti (@Dustiguminsky) February 8, 2025

DEBBIE LERMAN: The Office of the Vice President is where the COVID-19 task force was housed, and the COVID-19 task force was headed by the National Security Council. So all messaging had to go through the National Security Council

"All communications about COVID had to go through the Office of the Vice President. The Office of the Vice President is where the COVID Task Force was housed, and [it] was headed by the National Security Council. So all messaging had to go through the [NSC]."

Debbie Lerman, a… pic.twitter.com/EXUuUNy6eZ

— Sense Receptor (@SenseReceptor) February 5, 2025

And we keep telling everyone thought she was a consultant HHS was a science consultant in this arrangement the dod was the lead the dod was the chief operating officer of the operation warp speed and then you know entire response which was managed through the heads of the military and intelligence apparatus in the United States and HHS was just a consultant, so still

00:28.  I'm going to add to that, Sasha, because not only were they a consultant, but they were actually the PR front.  So all of the public health agencies in this country and other countries, as this dossier suggests, were a public relations front, so that they could claim that this was a public health response.  And what they did, and what we show in the dossier, is that the agencies and organizations that were in charge of messaging about the pandemic were not the public health agencies.  They did not come up with the messages.  They disseminated the messages. There's a huge difference.  So there was a plan and it was a biodefense plan, which is a military intelligence plan, and that was given to the public health agencies and they were told, okay, this is your response and now present it as a public health response.  That was Fauci's job.  That was the job of every Public Health agent in the United States government.  Now some of them knew that it wasn't really Public Health.  A lot of them didn't know.  They were just told and they went along with what they were told.  But we know, and the dossier shows, that in our government, for sure, starting, I don't remember exactly the dates but I think on February 27th, 2020, for sure, all communications about COVID-19 had to go through the Office of the Vice President.  The Office of the Vice President is where the COVID-19 task force was housed, and the COVID-19 task force was headed by the National Security Council.  So all messaging had to go through the National Security Council.  The CDC, there are FOIA'd documents and emails where they say, "We tried to get this out but we had to pass it through OVP, Office of the Vice President."  So there are documents that show this, and there are reports that tell us that the CDC was not allowed to have its own press conferences at all.  So none of that was coming from them. 

DEBBIE LERMAN: A military operation is NOT a public health event

One of the most ingenious aspects of the global [COVID-19] operation is that it was so brazen, so extreme, and so inconceivable that it can actually hide behind its own implausibility. --Debbie Lerman

A military operation is NOT a public health event - Debbie Lerman's discussion with Dr. Kat Lindley, by @sasha_latypova https://t.co/rWLx8is0eX

— St. Michael, the Archangel (@aveng_angel) December 23, 2024

For those without a Twitter account, here is a link to this excellent interview with Debbie Lerman, who tracks the biodefense response to COVID-19.

Debbie Lerman's Substack. 

"The Catastrophic COVID Convergence," Debbie Lerman, Brownstone Institute, July 11, 2022.

Her book, The Deep State Goes Viral, goes on sale in March 2025.

from "The Catastrophic COVID Convergence," Debbie Lerman, Brownstone Institute, July 11, 2022, Dr. Kat Lindley reads,

11:15  The [COVID-19] story is so much more complicated than I initially understood it is not about a single Public Health event run by a few misguided or ill intentioned individuals.  It is not confined to anyone government, and it is not a consequence of anyone country's internal politics.  It is now, I believe, a precautionary chapter in a much larger global saga.

And then in part two, towards the end, you concluded, in this kind of struck me,

One of the most ingenious aspects of the global [COVID-19] operation is that it was so brazen, so extreme, and so inconceivable that it can actually hide behind its own implausibility. 

13:25. Coming from not a communist country and growing up and taking for granted that it was a free country, and not just that it was a free country but that people in this country, and I guess in all Western countries, valued freedom, that that was actually a value.  Also that we were sensitive to encroaching tyranny.  I actually thought that we had a sensitivity that we had learned from the 20th century, you know, totalitarian experiences both like you had in the Communist world and also early, you know, from the Nazi and fascist regimes, I thought that we kind of as a collective society had learned particularly what it means to have or be propagandized as a collective group.  And the scariest thing about [COVID-19] and part of what led to that last sentence that it was so brazen and so huge that it could hide behind its own implausibility, the reason that the [COVID-19] response could hide at all is because the global censorship and propaganda campaign that was waged against the world's population made a large proportion of the population unaware of what was happening, and not just unaware, but made them believe the opposite.  And it made them believe the opposite in a very visceral almost religious way, and that's kind of what I was talking about in that opening clip with Jan Jekielek when I was describing how people responded to me when I would question the [COVID-19] measures.  They never responded to me factually.  They only responded to me in a sort of ideological, religious, quasi-religious way, which I eventually came to understand was the result of this massive propaganda campaign.  campaign.  So what happened was the way that it started was I was questioning the measures, and nobody around me was questioning it, and so that was driving me completely insane.  I was trying to find out on a local level and banging my head against the wall a lot, trying to fight the schools and trying to fight the health commissioner and whatever.  Finally I found Brownstone.  I started writing for Brownstone and then I started really digging into governments documents to see what was happening because I thought well if we have a pandemic

The real reason Sweden didn't do LOCKDOWNS? ... Because it wasn't in NATO in 2020

The real reason Sweden didn't do LOCKDOWNS? ... Because it wasn't in NATO in 2020!!🤯🤯🤯

The Five Eyes invoked intelligence and military defense treaties to force NATO countries to go along with the scamdemic response!! 🤯🤯🤯

Debbie Lerman, a 2023 Brownstone… pic.twitter.com/u1TQUSICWp

— Sense Receptor (@SenseReceptor) December 19, 2024

It doesn't stop there because, as you said, every country in the western world pretty much did the same thing except for Sweden.  Now, I asked myself for many years, for all these years, why did Sweden not do it?  Was it just because Anders Tegnell and all those people in Sweden were so smart?  Well, here is a possible answer.  It turns out that the way that The WHO, the other global governing bodies the UN, of which the WHO is a part, and their consulting bodies, like WEF, World Economic Forum, it's not a governance body but it is like a consulting body to the world governing bodies.  They were running the pandemic response.  So basically they were the ones giving the instructions.  Now, why would everybody follow, why would all the countries follow what The WHO says?  Because they invoked intelligence and military mutual defense treaties.  So the Five Eyes countries, which is the U.S., the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, so all the anglosphere, except for South Africa, they have a mutual intelligence agreement.  And there was a lot of involvement of the intelligence agencies supporting each other mutually in those countries.  All of those countries also had heavy military involvement in the response.  And the same is true for all NATO countries.  Which country in Europe was not in NATO during COVID?  Sweden.  [Note:  Sweden finally joined NATO on March 7, 2024.]

DR. ROBERT MALONE was busy in 2020 writing COVID guidebooks and faking science with famotidine for $21M for DARPA. The OTA contracts for COVID countermeasures were issued by the DOD for about $50B back then.

Dear Dr. Malone..., by @sasha_latypova https://t.co/Oc0hDUm5p7

— St. Michael, the Archangel (@aveng_angel) May 1, 2024

Here is the direct link to Sasha Latypova's open letter to Dr. Robert Malone.  It is so worth the read.

I never knew you were also an OTA expert! That’s good to know. It would have been even better to know this right around 2020 when you were busy writing COVID guidebooks and faking science with famotidine for $21M for DARPA. The OTA contracts for COVID countermeasures were issued by the DOD for about $50B back then. It would have been great to have you utter some mention of it on Joe Rogan’s or Dark Horse podcast or some other high-profile social media venue to mislead Americans who all thought they were getting safe regulated pharmaceutical products and not unregulated, dangerous, liability-free EUA military countermeasures. Why didn’t you say anything back then? Why didn’t you say anything in the January 16 Doc Malik interview to disprove what I said about the OTA/COVID contracts? What evidence of OTA expertise can you offer other than an angry assertion that you have it? Why did you wait to claim you have expertise in this topic until non-OTA-experts, 

Katherine Watt and I found and reviewed the relevant law and the contracts, and until Debbie Lerman, a journalist and not previously an OTA expert, figured out why and how HHS “partnered” with the DOD to circumvent their respective OTA restrictions? Turns out that was necessary to order a massive volume of “prototypes and demonstrations” (unregulated chemical poison) and pretend these were regulated medicines for military and civilians. Did you know this in 2020?

Here is the chart that shows that the DoD was in charge of Operation Warp Speed, or OWS.  At the right, it reads, "In charge: NSC, DOD, BARDA."

And here is a pic of General Gustave Perna, the Chief Operating Officer of OWS.  We may want to ask ourselves, how do we allow ourselves to be ruled by idiots?