Dr. David Hughes is an expert on psychological warfare, Covid-19, the deep state, intelligence crime, technocracy, and resurgent totalitarianism. We discuss the military operation under foot and how to effectively resist. Dr. Hughes is Senior Lecturer in International Relations at the University of Lincoln and a graduate of Oxford. He just released his latest book, Covid-19: Psychological Operations, and the War for Technocracy, 2024. His next book was Wall Street, the Nazis, and the Crimes of the Deep State, 2024. [As to "deep state," a better name for "it" or "them" is counter state. Linuxhippie points out that, "There is no "Deep State". That's a made up term to replace what is actually the "cause" of our issues--The Counter-State."]
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25:15. The government did it at the behest of as I say more powerful interests through the transnational deep state. It knew the kinds of harm that it was inflicting through lockdown and yet he kept the UK population in a state of almost continual lockdown until July 2021 so I'm afraid the cold facts and hard evidence are there and it's only really a kind of trauma bonding which psychologically incapacitates people from being able to accept that.
26:00. Categories of people in response to this psychological warfare you suggested that there's really three groups of people.
26:07. Yes this isn't in the book but this is something which came up in an interview I did yesterday but I think it's just a useful way of thinking about this. In many ways, it goes back to a British independent researcher by the name of Andrew Johnson [Substack] who's done really great work around 9/11. But in one of his kind of memorable phrases he said something along the lines of essentially what you have when dealing with these kind of deep structural events is you have the official approved narrative, and that's the one that most people believe. That's the one that the governments push, that the mainstream media pushes and the hypnotized masses generally follow and can't see outside of. Then you have the official, approved alternative version of events and it seems that that is largely placed there by design to kind of herd up those people who do realize actually there is something wrong with the official narrative in category one. So in Category 2, what you often find are supposed dissidents who nevertheless their voices amplified greatly. They don't find themselves shadow banned and censored. Sometimes some of these figures are quite hard to get away from. So again in this country we have a guy called Alex Creel who goes by the name of "Thinking Slow," and he's done really important work around this. And he looks at figures like Russell Brand, for example, and says when you look at the kind of viewership figures that this guy racks up, it's simply not plausible that he's actually offering any dissident thought. He's actually supported by the main platforms. He's actually promoted by them and even when there was that Scandal surrounding him a few months ago he actually ended up making more money and gaining more views after that so these kind of figures kind of fail upwards. In contrast, when we get to Category 3 . . . So let's come back to Andrew Johnson you have the official version of events the official alternative version of events and Category 3 is the truth and when you get to Category 3 that's when you're dealing with genuine dissidents. And as Creel explains, the genuine dissidents tend to be the people that you've never heard of because they are throttled at every stage in terms of their freedom of reach so again this is why the social media is so damaging in terms of being able to limit the exposure of certain people.
