"for thousands of years nobody had to tell humans what to eat. We intuitively knew what to eat, like a cow knows or a lion knows. We weren't confused about what we should be eating"

what we did is that we took essentially a recipe for metabolic destruction: 6 to 11 portions of grains, no saturated fats, animal oils must now be seed oils, and we put it on to our children, not to mention prisons, hospitals, nursing homes, but most effectively in the school children so that by the time you come out of high school you're metabolism is not in a good place.  Your health is bad, you are physically addicted to sugar and flour and it's hard to recover at that point.  So I think that would be the number one way that they altered our food supply is through the public school system which then has us addicted and thinking, psy-op'd into believing, that this is all natural and healthy, and you come out of high school, come out of the public school system and now you're compromised.  And not only are you sick physically, but you're sick mentally.  You're not as able to discern.  Your critical thinking skills erode from these waste products that have been put into us [in conjunction with the lack of nutrition] for decades.  --Matthew Lysiak

 

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In the early 1950s, Eisenhower had a heart attack and the country was in a state of near panic.  He was out for many days, and the idea of people just walking around and being struck was jarring.  So there was a race to figure out what was causing these heart attacks. Eisenhower smoked 4 packs of cigarettes a day but Ancel Keys had this theory that the diet that we had been eating for thousands of years in terms of animal fats was the culprit.  And his colorful idea was that the saturated fat worked in your body and clogged up your arteries and that the high cholesterol caused heart attacks.  And he was able to push this theory to what is considered conventional wisdom.  The seven countries study a 12-year-old could read it and see the flaws in it.  These were observational studies which were the equivalent of handing out flyers to somebody that asked them what they had been eating, and they are notoriously unreliable.  He also cherrypicked which countries he would use to bolster his argument so the data

Poorly run observational studies run by the 7th-Day Adventist church. 

John Yudkin from England was a brilliant scientist.  He posited that sugar has more of a correlation using Ansel Key's own data we'll look at this sugar is clearly more relevant here but after Nixon completely decoupled from the gold standard on August 15th, 1971.  And the currency began to degrade.  The two most important things that people consume are energy and food.  And you can go 10 years without buying a sofa.  You can go 20 years without buying a house, but we need energy and food every day.  And you notice very clearly the upticks everybody knows the gas price everybody knows how much food costs because we have to shop every day so there was a concerted effort and I document this throughout my book to tilt the table so to speak to people like Ansel keys to studies that affirm the point of view that we should be eating cheaper food because nothing gets people more riled up and I will point to Sri Lanka in 2022 where the price of meat went up by over 100% for a short period of time and the people stormed the palace the leaders had to flee and there had been several hundred food protests since 2020 about the high price of food so they understand how or our leaders understand how this is a very vulnerable point for them but instead of raining in the currency what they've done is altered the definition of Health so this is why people like Ansel Keys be promoted and people like John Yudkin who actually had real science behind him be devalued.

That seems to be happening in quite a few areas not just in health.  What's the relationship in this story between Proctor and Gamble and hydrogenation and American Health?

This is a part of my book where I learned a lot where I was researching I was going through old newspaper clips about what cottonseed oil was initially used for Procter & Gamble had excess cottonseed oil which was a waste product nobody really thought of cottonseed oil as something that people ate it was waste it was cottonseed and they came up with this idea to have it as a new fat.  I look at this part of history as a really remarkable feat in marketing because you know for thousands of years nobody had to tell humans what to eat.  We intuitively knew what to eat, like a cow knows or a lion knows. We weren't confused about what we should be eating.  But Procter & Gamble began a marketing campaign in the early 1940s or even earlier to push cottonseed oil as a food into the food supply.  To do this, they brought in a lot of nutritionists who are on their payroll they infiltrated some government groups to make it seem more legitimate and as a result, they went from holes and in ways that people perceive seed oils as something that was a foreign substance not fit for human consumption.  By the end of the 50s, it was widely held and you can go look at the advertisements from this period to . . . really interesting they'll show a woman a housewife and she'll be like well I'm a modern housewife I don't want my kitchen smelly with it with lard that's disgusting I'm using Crisco which is what the modern woman uses it was a really magnificent campaign because it ushered in for the first time foreign it's not food it's something different it's something that should not be consumed by people these foreign objects entered the food supply and it turned out to only be the beginning.

We have to talk about John Harvey Kellogg we see this name all the time we probably think he's like Walt Disney or something not really it turns out.

My wife had this idea I recently saw a screenplay and she thought I should write a horror movie based on John Harvey Kellogg because his life and I would not have to fictionalize it his life was what most people would consider a monster.

This book could be a documentary no problem at all, right? This would be fascinating for people who don't read books; it would give people at least something to think about.

And John Harvey Kellogg was a doctor and he became very close to Ellen Gould.  She was the one who founded the Seventh-Day Adventist Church to give your audience a little context The Seventh-Day Adventist Church was invented and brought into existence by Ellen Gould who, a young girl was hit very hard by a rock.  She came up out of a small coma with a disability to have visions from God, and God told her that we're on the precipice of apocalyptic destruction as a society.  The reason we are in this state is that we are eating too much meat which is leading to carnal desires, and the carnal desires, particularly masturbation, are the source not only of all disease but sin and the coming apocalypse is about to be brought on by all these people eating meat which led to carnal desires.  John Harvey Kellogg came along and they became very close.   He was a doctor.  It's hard to underestimate his influence at the time: he toured the country giving speeches, he wrote books, he wrote pamphlets, and he had a practice.  He was very influential he was a celebrity doctor at the time he'd wear a white suit and put a bird on his shoulder but his recommendations for young girls who came into his practice and had signs of depression, or even if they had a sore throat in one instance, he would recommend and suggest that the cause of it all was that they had been masturbating secretly.  Some of the things that he decided to do or prescribe were carbolic acid or to leech them or to perform surgeries without anesthesia so that the subject could remember the pain associated with sexual pleasure.  So he was a pervert on levels that just strained credibility and who would later go on which is really in his wheelhouse he would want to become a eugenicist, who was responsible for taking away the fertility for 200 women in Michigan to produce, because they were just not fit socially.  He was actually able to get laws passed in Michigan to accomplish that.  And I would argue that he's been more successful than people realize because for 50 years we've been eating Kellogg's Corn Flakes.  And his science was not off.  The sex drive of Americans has decreased; we've become less fertile so he's been astoundingly successful.  His legacy persists.  Every morning when some little boy wakes up and eats sexually repressive foods, like Kellogg's Corn Flakes or corn-based food and skim milk which has inhibited the male sex drive and the female sex drive and has arguably put our entire societal existence at a bit of a risk in terms of fertility rates, that that has contributed to [the health and food calamity in this country].  There are there are other factors.

Now I understand when you say that when you read Safe's version of the story you know this can't be right. The central thesis of the book is that the Federal Reserve, particularly after the removal of any lingering connection to gold placed on it in the middle of August in 1971, you wind up with rising food prices which lead to unrest.  So naturally there would be a movement toward pushing these other types of so-called food.  Is there any other way that the government privileges this particular approach to the American diet?

The way the government has manipulated the food supply is like an octopus with tentacles.  One of the ways is by directly giving subsidies to the corn industry which has gotten trillions of dollars in subsidies to sugar, soy, and corn, these three effects of the fiat money printing channeled productive energy from Americans into soy, sugar, and corn has distorted the marketplace as a result of that we have increasingly put more corn and soy and sugar into our foods.  In the 1960s, high fructose corn syrup wasn't a thing.  We had cane sugar.  Natural sugar that was in our Coca-Cola wasn't good, but it was better metabolically for our bodies.  Another way that the government has done it is through brute force.  In 1980, we came up with the dietary guidelines for Americans.  This wasn't as bad as it would get eventually.  It basically told  Americans to eat less meat and to eat more grains.  This came into fruition heavily in 1992 with the food pyramid because it was the first time the government told us specifically what not to eat and this was 6 to 11 servings of grain. People who grew up in the 90s remember this and it wasn't just a bunch of bureaucrats throwing out propaganda; if they wanted people to abide by that, we could ignore it.  This now became instituted in every public school in the country.  So what we did is that we took essentially a recipe for metabolic destruction: 6 to 11 portions of grains, no saturated fats, animal oils must now be seed oils, and we put it on to our children, not to mention prisons, hospitals, nursing homes, but most effectively in the school children so that by the time you come out of high school you're metabolism is not in a good place.  Your health is bad, you are physically addicted to sugar and flour and it's hard to recover at that point.  So I think that would be the number one way that they altered our food supply is through the public school system which then has us addicted and thinking, psy-op'd into believing, that this is all natural and healthy, and you come out of high school, come out of the public school system and now you're compromised.  And not only are you sick physically, but you're sick mentally.  You're not as able to discern.  Your critical thinking skills erode from these waste products that have been put into us [in conjunction with the lack of nutrition] for decades.

I like to make a brief plug if I made for one of my listeners, Hal Cranmer, who runs assisted living facilities in Arizona and it's called A Paradise for Parents @ aparadiseforparents.com.  One of the things that he does there is to make sure that they eat actual food.  He's very deliberate about that.  They're not going to eat according to the ridiculous food pyramid, what 11 pieces of toast a day?  

Tom, that is criminal, and just so that your audience knows and we go through this in the book and I want to give a hat tip to Nina Teicholz of The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat, and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet, 2015.  She uncovered that people who come up with these dietary guidelines are all shills of industry.