5:55  When I started working with Richard Hirschman in the fall of 2021, as I've told you prior but I want everybody to understand the background.  Richard Hirschman came to my attention through DoD whistleblower, Lieutenant Colonel Dr. Teresa Long.  She's one of the three DoD whistleblowers along with Dr. P Chambers, Dr. Sam Sigoloff, Mark Mashaw, and others but they were the primary face of exposing the DMED, the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database, and this was a version of VAERS but inside the military.  The reason the numbers were so startling is that, unlike VEARS, only military physicians could put data into that database.  So it wasn't stuff that you could write off from the general public who may not have known what they were filing.  The numbers were a 100% increase, a 1000% in some cases, in heart attacks, strokes, and neurological disorders all up in 2021 from the years previous, and it was paralleling what we were seeing in VAERS.  So this is how she came to my attention.  

I met with Hirschman in October 2021.  I didn't break the worldwide story until January 2022, and I did that when I was still connected with Stew Peters on his Rumble channel.  I'd since left.  But it took several months of working with Mr. Hirschman to go over what he had

8:25. Hundreds and hundreds of pictures and examples in one of those interviews kind of late in the game I was taking a lot of heat from trolls in the feds fact checkers USA Today and the Atlantic and everybody was trying to discredit me there was one interview where Hirschman and by the way I'll say it publicly now I disengaged from him I was a little angry with him not because he wasn't giving me credit or mentioning me.  I could care less.  I know what I did.  I know the work I did.  He at some point early on split.  He understood that he could become famous or make money, whatever it was if he went with Stew Peters and Died Suddenly, which also got him into a cabal circle with Dr. Ryan Cole, who's always been trying to discredit these clots as sugar and amyloid false things based on no studies.  He wanted to run with the big boys he ran with Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Ryan Cole, all those guys, plus Stew Peters and Kirsch, and then Died Suddenly came out.  And, of course, it was a disaster in my opinion, it was filled with misleading videos.  They were showing in pre-COVID-19 showing people dropping over on the basketball court.  I came to learn, thank God for unanswered prayers because I was very hurt.  I had the majority of the information and it was my story, but I thank God for unanswered prayers because it was criticized, rightfully so, for having wrong information, missing information, and false information, like the guy falling over on the basketball court, that many people eventually figured out was from way before COVID-19.  In that interview, Hirschman says to me,

Dr. Jane, I got to tell you.  I asked my wife to tell me if I'm crazy or something, but when I went back to the refrigerator,"

He was keeping samples in baggies, different types of samples, he was dating them, I encouraged him to do that.

As I go back every couple of days, they're getting bigger.

So I said whoa, wait a minute.  When you say they're getting bigger, are we talking about doubling in size?  Are we talking about over hours or days or what?  So he started qualifying it for me, and he said,

Some of them are two to three times bigger. 

And it was over a couple of weeks.  I'd have to go and find that interview.  It was just a moment in time.  If we hadn't gotten estranged from each other from the rift that was created by Kirsch and Cole and Peters, we probably would have done more work and good work together that's just my opinion now along comes to study