My take on @jordanbpeterson on @joerogan pic.twitter.com/7hBdtsL3bD
— Owen Benjamin 🐻 (@OwenBenjamin) April 23, 2025
My thoughts on Jordan Peterson are a little nuanced because I think he's totally right. But his lack of disclosure, the fact that it's him too, is why people are righteously and rightfully calling him out. What he said was 4% of the population are Machiavellian, dark tetrad psychopath types who seek power their Pharisees and cynical and just use God's name in vain to get power he's right but Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boreing are two of the classic definitions of that. Same with the CAA that he's represented by and then, of course, Jeremy and Ben that's paid him millions of dollars. It's the hypocrisy that makes people angry, but he's absolutely right, because psychopathy, narcissism, sociopathy all of this it's not just because people are bad people. Dan Carlin coined a term once called "Logical insanity," when he was doing an episode about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It's doing a crazy thing that appears crazy to a sane environment but in that environment it makes sense. And the best way I can describe this is there was an anti-drug commercial when I was a kid, where this kid was caught with drugs, and he looks at his dad and his dad is mad, and he says, "I learned this from watching you." Okay, run by Jews with victim narcissism or victim consciousness narcissism, "the science," and you realize being a good person being honest or being competent is not helping what helps is being a gay- trans- minority, right, like that's what is rewarded. That's why people develop this. Narcissism comes from having a very unstable upbringing, where you are gaslit a lot, and so you just shut it off. You just say "whatever I think is right." Okay and then you lose insight you lose your ability to self perceive it's really bad for you but it's a protective mechanism for what you needed as a child. Same with psychopathy. It's like you never get past that 3-year-old when you're a 3-year-old and you don't quite realize that you can't just take anything from anyone. Hurting people has consequences and you're not alone in the world, and all this. And also they are still in that, "If it benefits me, it's good." They don't think long-term; they think short- term. They're very impulsive. But that is from an environment that you were raised in. Like imagine that you are in an environment where you don't know if your caretaker that you're supposed to trust is supposed to start beating you for no reason. You have to be very watchful. You have to be really quick to react. You also have to watch out for yourself, and you don't trust anybody. That's how these things are formed.
3:16. So when you're looking at the political spectrum, grievance and victim consciousness is how you get money and power. They've been watching this their whole lives. They're not just going to lose and quit, you know, they're going to win and so the way to win now is to create a grievance about Jews, let's say. And the Jew types, the psychopathic type, like a Jordan Peterson, they're just mad that they don't get to do the trick without competition. And this is why it's a lot like farming and I've explained this over and over again if you'd like to check out old videos where I in great detail go into this years ago, like Episode # 100 LadleTV. One of my listeners was talking about how I was describing the "How am I driving?" sticker. 99% of people call only if they're bad. They don't call to say how good someone is driving. The negativity is more energetic. And he laughed because he does call and say people are good drivers, which I thought was really cool. And so when you're in a world where the reward is based on negativity, grievance, victim consciousness what happens is you get power short-term but then you lose all wealth of civilization. It doesn't last and so that's why you'll see a group of people who continuously get power, destroy civilizations, and move because if you live in a world of grievance and victim consciousness the work doesn't get done, babies don't get born, and no one trusts each other. And then everything is gone. And so that's really what's happening. What he was saying is totally true. I mean when people sometimes say "Christ is King," they just want to see Jews get scared. I watched that. He's right. So pretending that he's not making a good point isn't true. I was one of the first people to get all this information out. I mean I was wrecked at CAA when I was talking about the lies of the Holocaust and I lost a lot of money over it. And I'm telling you right now you get no credit from psychos for that. Like there is no team. Like a psychopath Machiavellian dirt type they don't have teams they don't support bravery or courage; they are actually intimidated by it, and they try to destroy you. So there is no winning. So what happens is it's just like farming, where a pasture gets eaten down, and then you move the cows to the next pasture because they've eaten everything. And that's why I like the permaculture view of the world, and I try to live that way where even if you make less money, or you have less credibility for the Zeitgeist, like the masses, or whatever, less fane, it's worth it to surround yourself by people that like good. And long-term that's how you build an old growth forest. Maple syrup is so expensive. I started planting maple trees, and they won't be mature for 40 years. I'll be 84, almost 85, but you think in terms of my children, my children's children. If everybody thought short-term, there would be no maple syrup.
6:47. And I have a story to talk about when it comes to being a parent today that is humbling and embarrassing but I think a lot of you guys will relate. And I caught myself at a crossroads where things could have gone totally different. And I've got a lot of compassion for a lot of crazy people today because I can see where a bad dad can just stumble into a behavior and not even realize it, they think they're doing good, and create an environment that sets up one of these psycho-type people. people. And it's kind of like a really promiscuous girl that was molested as a kid. Yeah you can call her a slut, and a whore, and throw rocks at her and everything, but you know that was her coping mechanism. Where if Whitney Cummings as much as she's such a herpetic sore on the world, she's made some good points. In one of her bits years ago when we were doing open mics together, she said "I'm unrapable because I never say no." Genius. That is how it is. Kind of like the male equivalent of being very, very quick to aggression and fighting, because when you're weak, you get a really bad beating. It's kind of like a woman where if she says no and she gets raped, it's a lot worse than if she just says yes. And that is why people act the way they do. And so the only real solution is to be better parents, to form communities, grow food, to be honest, so that's my thoughts on it.