LEIGH, 9:38 I don't think that it's constructive to have personal attacks . . . BREGGIN, 9:42 I think it's important. We have to identify who the real people are that are harming us.

BREGGIN, 9:20  Malone is an extremely wealthy man, who parades on horses on his website wearing the garments of what looks like a king, maybe it's something other than a king, but crowns and big robes, and stuff.  This is an elite appearance or optics.  

LEIGH, 9:38  I don't think that it's constructive to have personal attacks . . . 

BREGGIN, 9:42  I think it's important.  We have to identify who the real people are that are harming us.  Malone made $10 billion dollars in grants in 5 years.  We've documented that.  We've found his old biographies.  We found commentaries.  He took in $10 billion dollars from the Deep State up to 2017 over a mere 5 years, $2 billion per year.  He is currently, and he had to tell the truth because he had to sign an affidavit for a case where he is a medical expert.  He is currently involved in what is called NIH ACTIV,  which stands for Accelerated COVID-19 Therapeutic Interventions and Vaccines.  That is the heart of the worst of the Deep State.  It's at the NIH.  The membership includes basically the Great Reset, Bill Gates's organization is a part of this group.  All the top drug companies are there.  All the major health agencies are there, and the DoD is there.  He is a part of this, and as some of his activities he actually did research on treating COVID-19 with a currently available drug . . . 

11:07  Kristi Leigh interrupts for a break.  

LEIGH, 11:42  Getting both sides, which I think is important.  That's funny because just a few minutes ago she was saying, "I don't think that it's constructive to have personal attacks . . . ."  So, Kristi, which is it?  Do we have a discussion, or do we limit free speech to more convenient sentiments?  She continues, . . . Speaking of debate, do you think it will be constructive, or have you offered to have a debate on this mass formation topic with Mattias Desmet or Dr. Malone?

BREGGIN, 11:55  Actually, we made formal invitations to both of them, starting with the platform of America OutLoud by Malcolm Teasdale, who runs it, and he got really nasty emails back from Malone telling him not to ever contact him again, whereupon Malone sent him 4 or 5 more emails.  I've made public announcements to debate them in Europe no less, including Desmet in Europe.  They have not taken me up on that.  And this is what is important about making issues like this.  Several people in Europe who we'd previously trusted made sure I couldn't get up one of the interviews that was done of me in Europe where I was critical of Malone.  It is not me who is personal.  I mean I just couldn't bare but to tell you about the pictures on his website about his horses and his crown.  But they have been trying to keep me from even getting my stuff out.  Malone actually threatened on the phone to do a letter of cease and desist on writing anything about him.  These people are deadly serious disrupters of our movement.  Just looking at what they are saying in their writing, which is what I've done so much on my website.  BTW, for all the information in the world on this, we set up a dedication portion of our website with a very simple URL.  It's 123masspsychosis.com.  In his book, Desmet not only tries to say, as I think you may have quoted him, or somebody did, that we've got to deal with ourselves, not with the dictators.  He actually says that "those of us," on pages 126-128, those of us who are looking for meaning beneath mistakes being made, which are innocent, those of us who are looking for intention, there's harm, those of who, in his words are "conspiracy thinkers," we are basically mentally disturbed.  We have severe anxiety.  We have confusion.  We have bewilderment.  I don't think I communicated those things at age 86.  And because of these needs, this is the language, we go and we invent theories about bad people so we can blame someone

other than oneself.  He's trying to sweep away any legal or personal responsibility on the part of the people attacking us.  Now, I went ahead and said, at least in one of my reports, "At least Malone isn't doing this," and then he went ahead and did it on

COVID-19 and the Global Predators: We Are the Prey https://t.co/dduJ3SeV1C via @amazon

— St. Michael, the Archangel (@aveng_angel) February 17, 2024

Moderna and the U.S. government wrote the patent on [SARS-CoV-2] a long time ago.

This interview and one other are probably the reason why Twitter banned Peter McCullough for, what, his second or third or fourth time?  

This is why they took him down pic.twitter.com/hHU9KrRkWp

— Sarah Jane 💮 (@SJWilliams123) October 7, 2022

When the Republicans come into power in the House, they'll start to have real strong subpoena power, investigation power.  Senator Ron Johnson posted over 40 senatorial letters, which are basically placeholders for investigations.  I think the FDA Commissioner is in deep trouble, uh, NIH division directors in deep trouble, CDC Director.  They're going to have nowhere to hide.  The publications make it clear: it was a government operation that created SARS-CoV-2 and the spike protein.  It's the U.S. government that did it, and they were working on the threat and working on the response which was various forms of antigens to be injected or monoclonal antibodies.  But it's clear, it was a U.S. government operation.  The work was done in China and there was Chinese collaboration.  You know Moderna's CEO, Stefan Bainsel, he was the CEO of Biomeru and he built the Wuhan bio-security lab with the Chinese when he was leading the French company.  He built that lab, then he leaves in 2015 and he joins Moderna.  And then Moderna co-writes the patent with the National Institutes of Health, NIH.  You probably heard recently that Moderna is suing Pfizer over the patent . . . yeah, people ask my opinion.  Yeah, Crissy, people ask my opinion, and I say, yes.  This will all come to light.  It takes a long time to write a patent and pass a prosecution . . . it takes a long time.  Moderna and the U.S. government wrote the patent on the product a long time ago.  And we knew this because when the crisis was announced in the United States, three days later Moderna announces they have a product.  How can they have a product in 3 days?  You can't invent something in 3 days.  This was planned.  this was all planned, and Peter Breggin's whom you mentioned, The Global Predators, book Peter Breggin says, he puts this in his timeline, 36 pandemic preparedness events since 2012.  Thirty-six!!!  25 of which generated documents, and then 

If you hadn't heard, McCullough was banned from Twitter this morning. 

Dr McCullough is simply a giant. Twitter destroys many of its best. Peter, you are too good for this sh**hole platform. https://t.co/eS7DJyFdq4

— Aaron Kheriaty, MD (@akheriaty) October 7, 2022

Here is the full interview. The interviewer is Kristi Leigh.  Here is her Twitter feed.

We are in a Twilight Zone, no regulatory traction at all, it's wide open malfeasance, it's wide open corruption, sweeping through our regulatory agencies.  Money flows from Big Pharma to the FDA. [I could have told him that.]  And the biggest sources of conflict of interest is that the officials at the FDA they get their next jobs with Big Pharma and with venture capital firms.  This discordance between the agencies, worldwide and inside the United States, will become a source of investigation.  It will.  

You probably heard recently, Moderna is suing Pfizer over the patent.   . . . yeah, people ask my opinion.  Yeah, Crissy, people ask my opinion, and I say, yes.  This will all come to light.  It takes a long time to write a patent and pass a prosecution . . . it takes a long time.  Moderna and the U.S. government wrote the patent on the product a long time ago.  And we knew this because when the crisis was announced in the United States, three days later Moderna announces they have a product.  How can they have a product in 3 days?  You can't invent something in 3 days.  This was planned. 

My hypothesis is that 85% of people are getting relatively degraded material in those lots meaning they're not very potent.  [I disagree here.  85% is a high percentage of unfazed recipients.  Too many people have been injured or died.]  While 15% are getting locked and loaded, potent, well-manufactured genetic material, and that's installing the spike protein and it is failed.  

John Link and I took a year off to write the book.  John is from Dallas